From cjp at ultimatestunts.nl  Thu Feb 11 21:00:32 2016
From: cjp at ultimatestunts.nl (CJP)
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 22:00:32 +0100
Subject: [Lightning-dev] HTLCs using
 OP_CHECKSEQUENCEVERIFY/OP_LOCKTIMEVERIFY and revocation hashes.
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> Yes, unfortunately they're intertwined.  I was sure we'd discussed
> this before, and I found it.
> 
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2015-July/000077.html
> 
> We keep rediscovering this problem so I need to document it somewhere.

Ah, I see. I think, at the time that message was sent, I didn't
understand it yet. Now that I did the thinking myself, I guess I do.

Cool to see that the alternative solution (never completely depleting
ones channel balance, to have some 'collateral') was also mentioned. I'm
not sure yet which is better; if there is a demand for it, both types
could be implemented and used next to each other in Amiko Pay.

CJP