From rusty at rustcorp.com.au Tue Oct 27 19:33:25 2015 From: rusty at rustcorp.com.au (Rusty Russell) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 06:03:25 +1030 Subject: [Lightning-dev] Lightning fees vs miner fees In-Reply-To: <20151027054029.GA6185@navy> References: <20151027054029.GA6185@navy> Message-ID: <87mvv4w1h6.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> Anthony Towns writes: > C. Without lightning, as bitcoin adoption increases, either fees rise, > or number of transactions per block increases proportionally. If > 1% of people know about bitcoin, and use it whenever it's cheap; > then 2% of people knowing about bitcoin gives twice as many > transactions at any given price level. Metcalf's law? Both sides need to "know about bitcoin". Say: 1 billion people, each initiating 100 txs per year. But only 1% know about bitcoin, so those 10M can only use it for 1 of their annual transactions. At 2%, 20M can use it for 2 of their annual transactions... Not sure how this alters the rest of your calculations. Cheers, Rusty.