[p2p-research] [Commoning] Information sector: a qualitative different mode of production?

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 5 03:50:27 CET 2011


If anyone has links to english material on land commons initiatives, thanks
for sending them to me, to build an archive at
http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Agrifood,

I recently came across work in Scotland, around common good assets at the
municipal level, see the links below also available via
http://www.delicious.com/mbauwens/P2P-Scotland

THis article here has interesting details on zapatista sustainability
practices at the school level: *
http://www.alternet.org/environment/149391/do_we_have_to_live_like_peasants_to_be_truly_sustainable?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=alternet
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   -    Welcome to Scottish Commons <http://www.scottishcommons.org/>
   PEOPLE
    5 <http://www.delicious.com/url/e211b34440f9ecbb6e47da8694c2b3d0>
    The Commonweal Project was launched by the Caledonia Centre for Social
   Development in early 2002. The aim of the project is to raise awareness and
   promote practical action to restore Scotland's commons to those to whom they
   belong. This is being done by a process of identifying, researching and
   documenting the range of commons that exist and providing advice and
   assistance to those actively engaged in attempts to restore Scottish
   commons.
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     -    - Common Good Awareness Project 2010<http://www.inthecommongood.org/>
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    There are 5 sections here that will help folk to navigate a way to
   understanding what the Common Good is, how important it is to us, what is
   happening to it and why it is in our interest and future generations
   interests to look after it.
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    Scottish land reform researcher Andy Wightman explaining the basics of
   Common Good assets in Scotland. Common Good are land, buildings and
   artefacts that have been given to the people of a burgh or town as common
   property and for benefit of their common wellbeing. For more information
   see: http://www.scottishcommons.org
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    A detailed and critical look at how Scotland's commons were privatised
   and how the theft of land continues to this day aided by dubious legal fixes




On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:13 AM, Miguel Said Vieira
<miguelsvieira at gmail.com>wrote:

> Just adding to Martin's position here, I'd mention that the MST (the
> Brazilian landless workers movement) is strongly focused on some sort of
> recommonalizing of land.
>
> Some of the land that MST members occupy or get from land reform is
> "commonalized" (coop production, communal land ownership), some is not
> (there is individual ownership of each parcel); but even in the latter
> cases, I believe land reform is always recommonalizing to some extent,
> and even more so in the way MST advocates it. Apart from that, MST is by
> almost all accounts the most important social movement in Brazil in the
> last couple of decades.
>
> Sam Rose pointed to some interesting examples of possible urban land
> commoning. In Brazil there are also organized "homeless" workers
> movements (MTST is one I know of) that occupy abandoned buildings --
> mostly those left for speculation, or those whose owners refuse to pay
> land tax. (My father worked in São Paulo's public service, dealing with
> land tax issues, and told me he never heard of a single case of "eminent
> domain", a concept which also exists in our Constitution and laws --
> even though land tax nonpayments are very common, and even though some
> of these speculators owe more in land tax than the current market value
> of their buildings.)
>
> These movements are far smaller and less successful than MST, but they
> exist nonetheless (so there's some wiggle room and some popular demand).
> Once they occupy a building, they work collectively to clean it up
> (literally tons of accumulated garbage), to get minimal electricity and
> water services running, to organize a school and library for the
> children in the occupation etc. People (especially those who are
> unemployed) work in shifts in varied tasks: maintenance, cleaning,
> security, cooking... it sounds a lot like commoning to me, and I believe
> we should support this kind of initiative.
>
> All best,
> Miguel
>
> P.S. -- thanks to all for such an interesting discussion. I was tempted
> to join it quite a few times, but so far I've always been some 30
> messages behind. :-)
>
> P.P.S. -- while I've heard lots of praise on how these movements deals
> with participation and decision-making (for example, women are very
> influential in them), I've also heard some critiques regarding their
> hierarchical organization or --in the case of urban movements-- the
> effective extent of their popular grounding nowadays. (Richard Pithouse
> had mentioned this one to me, which applies to urban movements:
> http://abahlali.org/files/rio.pdf particularly pp. 8-14). These issues
> are obviously important if we look at those movements as commons
> struggles.
>
>
> Em Seg, 2011-01-03 às 13:49 +0000, j.martin.pedersen escreveu:
> >
> > On 03/01/11 04:59, Michel Bauwens wrote:
> > > Hi Martin,
> > >
> > > I think the commonality between land and digital commoners is an
> interesting
> > > path to argue for and pursue, though in a western context, I don't see
> much
> > > wiggle room for land commons, as I wonder which social forces would
> stand
> > > behind it in current circumstances ... I know of no farmers who would
> > > support the recommonalizing of land, and even workers in large
> > > agribusinesses have not expressed this demand for ages. Or is that a
> wrong
> > > perception?
> >
> > Yes, this is a perception that misses some of the most important aspects
> > of contemporary social movements in Euro-America: firstly, of course,
> > the movement that Roberto and I have been bantering at cross-purposes
> > about, namely permaculture movements that struggle with reclaiming land
> > or living with nature vis-a-vis planning laws and conservative rural
> > dwelling city professionals and other disgruntled locals. There is a
> > very good magazione in which many of their stories and analyses are
> > collected called The Land:
> > http://www.thelandmagazine.org.uk/
> >
> > Secondly, the community-supported agriculture movements are reorganising
> > relations between people and the land - and transforming in doing so
> > also the relation between people and the fruits of the land, which are
> > rendered collective fruits of commoning instead of commodities.
> >
> > In any case, if there were noone trying to reclaim land we would have to
> > focus even more in it, not less..
> >
> > m
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Commoning at lists.wissensallmende.de
> > http://lists.wissensallmende.de/mailman/listinfo/commoning
>
>
>
>


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