[p2p-research] Rushkoff on Net Neutrality

Tue Jan 4 07:24:26 CET 2011

Sepp, to help you with the task, which I hope you can do,

here already a list of the discussions at ning (not blog post section just
'discussions)

Tribler:
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/tribler-decentralized-bit

Freenet: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/who-should-use-freenet

First Square Mile,
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/the-first-square-mile-our

Dot-Net,
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/alternative-to-icann-root

Ripple, http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/ripple-pay-looking-for

Spiderweb, http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/project-spiderweb-a

Mesh Potato,
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/mesh-potato-how-to-roll-out

Bitcoin, http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source

Netsukuku,
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/netsukukus-fractal-address

qualifies or not:

http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/dwolla-p2p-payment-startup

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Neal Gorenflo <neal at shareable.net> wrote:

> Michel, your comments will add nuance to the discussion.  Sepp, I look
> forward to your list.  I'm really curious about what alternatives are out
> there.  You know, positive responses should get equal time with the bad news
> around Wikileaks and Net Neutrality.  That's the spirit of Douglas' post
> (and Shareable in general).  BTW, we're both pounding the pavement tomorrow
> and Wednesday to add this perspective to public discourse (or at least try).
>
> I will also share your totally awesome book list!  I ordered your top
> recommendations.  -Neal
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I'm also excerpting doug's editorial with a comment on the 11th as well:
>>
>> see:
>>
>> <I must disagree that it is an either/or proposition. Yes, indeed, the
>> current internet infrastructure has become corporatized and is under the
>> control of censoring governments, but unlike fully centralized media with
>> one point of access, the internet is still distributed in many aspects, and
>> we cannot assume we have lost the fight, such as for example over network
>> neutrality, open standards, and free network services. Both struggles, that
>> for independent distributed resources and for the defense of the current
>> hybrid internet, have to be conducted at the same time. The success of many
>> user revolts, and corporate backtracks, shows that many things can still be
>> achieved. The internet will be the result of a social compromise between
>> users/producers and platform owners, we cannot abandon the terrain to them.>
>>
>> of course, I fully support Doug's call as well, and have asked Sepp to
>> publish a top of alternative distributed infrastructure projects, I think we
>> urgently need some kind of mapping of what needs to be done, and how,
>>
>> Neal, can you also spread the word about this:
>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-ten-best-p2p-books-of-2010/2011/01/04
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Neal Gorenflo <neal at shareable.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, cool.  I saw this in your mail, but missed it on the blog.  I'm going
>>> to share this with our community prime time tomorrow.  BTW, Roberto's ICC
>>> address is very popular on Shareable.
>>>
>>> Thanks Michel, thanks Sepp!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Neal, thanks for pointing out that link, which also echoes our
>>>> proposals here,
>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-new-years-message-of-the-p2p-foundation-what-digital-commoners-need-to-do/2011/01/01(see also below under sigfile)
>>>>
>>>> I copy Sepp who monitors infrastructures for us,
>>>>
>>>> Michel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Neal Gorenflo <neal at shareable.net>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Michel, Happy new year!
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I sent this to you earlier.  In the mean time a lively
>>>>> discussion has sparked up here:
>>>>> http://www.shareable.net/blog/the-next-net
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm curious how citizens could actually build a separate internet or
>>>>> at least fork it in a useful way.  Wondering if there's actually
>>>>> serious proposals out there that should be getting more attention as
>>>>> the mainstream media keeps us focused on the collapsing of net
>>>>> neutrality and Wikileaks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rushkoff + Shareable + whoever else wants to join in are foolishly
>>>>> attempting to shift the dialog a bit with our tiny megaphones ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Neal
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Neal Gorenflo | Publisher, http://Shareable.net | 415.867.0429
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> The New Year’s Message of the P2P Foundation: What Digital Commoners
>>>> Need To Do<http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-new-years-message-of-the-p2p-foundation-what-digital-commoners-need-to-do/2011/01/01>
>>>> [image: photo of Michel Bauwens]
>>>> Michel Bauwens
>>>> 1st January 2011
>>>>
>>>>  The following is *a meditation on the strategic phases in the
>>>> construction of a peer to peer world*
>>>>
>>>> *What have we been doing in the last few years, and what should we be
>>>> doing next?* Here is a list of major undertakings, some well under way,
>>>> some barely begun. All need to be done, are interdependent on each other,
>>>> but need to be done ‘at the same time’, though there is a certain maturation
>>>> effect which may need to take place to move from one phase or priority to
>>>> another. Finding out these interdepencies and choosing amongst those
>>>> priorities is a matter of debate, strategising, and practical experience.
>>>>
>>>> ** use the existing infrastructures for immaterial exchange for
>>>> personal and social autonomy*
>>>>
>>>> We started by creating an infrastructure that allowed for peer to peer
>>>> communication. Out of this striving came the internet and its end to end
>>>> principle, web 2.0 and its possibilities for participation, and social media
>>>> allowing for intense relational interaction, and tools such as wikis which
>>>> allow for the collaborative construction of knowledge.
>>>>
>>>> The creation of this infrastructure was a combination of efforts of
>>>> civil society forces, governments and public funding, and private R&D and
>>>> commercial deployments. It’s an imperfect world full of governmental
>>>> control, corporate platforms, but also many capabilities for p2p interaction
>>>> that did not exist before.
>>>>
>>>> My assessment is that this struggle can experience setbacks but can no
>>>> longer be undone. They have become civilisational achievements that are just
>>>> as necessary for p2p-commoners than for the powers that be, even if they can
>>>> impose a ‘dissent tax’
>>>>
>>>> ** change those infrastructures itself away from centralized and
>>>> corporate control*
>>>>
>>>> But precisely because phase 1 is an imperfect one and partially if not
>>>> largely in control of forces which have their own agenda of (political)
>>>> control and (commercial) exploitation, as lately exemplified so well in the
>>>> corporate decisions around Wikileaks, we are increasingly realizing the need
>>>> to control these very infrastructures and insure that they can continue to
>>>> allow and even expand the possibilities for p2p communication and value
>>>> creation.
>>>>
>>>> Hence the movements for free software, open standards, independent p2p
>>>> infrastructures. There are many efforts underway in this area, some
>>>> successful, some fledlging, some of which will go nowhere and be defeated.
>>>>
>>>> Success on this front also depends on what the ‘enemy’ is doing. To the
>>>> degree they want to go too far in controlling the platforms, to that degree
>>>> they will mobilize the counterforces building the counter-infrastructures,
>>>> and convince more and more users to use them.
>>>>
>>>> ** use the existing infrastructrures, and the new p2p-transformed ones,
>>>> to change the very infrastructure of production of material goods, making it
>>>> more sustainable in the process*
>>>>
>>>> As we get habituated to p2p communication and value creation, and move
>>>> from open software to open knowledge to open design, p2p communities get
>>>> involved in redesigning the means of production and making, i.e. open design
>>>> necessarily needs to a reconfiguration of production processes towards
>>>> ‘distributrion’. Open design communities moreover have no perverse
>>>> incentives for planned obsolence or for hindering the sharing of innovation,
>>>> so the new infrastructures have a bias towards sustainability, but also to
>>>> relocalized production and a rationalisation of wasteful and unsustainable
>>>> material globalization.
>>>>
>>>> ** change the property structures of the infrastructure and means of
>>>> production in the process*
>>>>
>>>> As the new modalities of open design and distributed manufacturing are
>>>> deployed, peers discover and experience the many constraints imposed by the
>>>> old order of production, such as modes of property, the lact of benefit or
>>>> revenue sharing, compound-interest based capital which is not easily
>>>> available for them etc … They start building their own platforms, governance
>>>> foundations, etc …This creates a need to extend p2p practices and modalities
>>>> to the rest of the economy, with efforts towards forms of peer funding, open
>>>> money, a revival of cooperatives and mutualism, and many other. Commoners
>>>> also discover their affinities with other counter-economies such as the
>>>> solidarity economy, fair trade, and other forms of commons-friendly
>>>> enterprise and start developing practical and political alliances
>>>>
>>>> ** raising of political awareness and expression as a means of
>>>> overcoming opposition*
>>>>
>>>> As all the above processes are undertaken, digital commoners learn about
>>>> and experience the political and economic forces that are arraigned against
>>>> them, and become more politically aware, discovering the need for their own
>>>> modalities of political action and expression. They may also discover
>>>> affinities with the enemies of their enemies, other social movements,
>>>> commons-friendly enterpreneurs, etc
>>>>
>>>> ** transform the infrastructures so that the abundance of immaterial
>>>> sharing can co-exist with the sustainability of the planet, and the demands
>>>> for equity and social justice*
>>>>
>>>> Immaterial cooperation rests on a physical infrastructure which is
>>>> currently part and parcel of an unsustainable mode of production. Commoners
>>>> learn the importance of recognizing the natural scarcities of the physical
>>>> world and how knowledge sharing and open design are themselves vital factors
>>>> to redesign the unsustainable infrastructure, and to transform it into
>>>> resilient modalities that insure the perenity of the new social practices.
>>>> Digital commoners ally with those forces that combine an interest in the
>>>> abundant sharing of immaterial resources, in the context of preserving
>>>> natural resources, and according to the principles of social equity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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