[p2p-research] [Commoning] abundance in agriculture

[Michel Bauwens]

sam, I think the 2 centers i saw were nonprofits and making income through
training and getting help from volunteers ... I don't see that as
problematic by itself,I heard that none of the eco-villages is actually
self-sufficient, they all live from outside income ..

they also told me their thai neighbours in the village taught they were
'crazy' ... but were confident their attitude would change in time ...

Michel

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I think there is indeed a big difference between the climates and what it
> > allows,
> >
> > here in northern Thailand, which may be very similar to the Philippines,
> > things tend to grow profusely, and the two permaculture places I visited
> > seemed to be places of great enthusiasm, but I must note, these farms are
> by
> > no way self-sufficient, because they rely on training to outside people,
> and
> > the farming life is still hard, because of working and living in great
> heat
> > ...
>
> I wonder also if in some cases permaculture efforts are frustrated
> simply due to lack of knowledge about how to produce food out of, and
> maintain the installation?
>
> Also, if self-sufficiency in the Thai permaculture farms centers
> around becoming financially profitable, it could be that they simply
> need a different model (not a for-profit business model).
>
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