[p2p-research] ulitmate anti-collapse video

[Michel Bauwens]

thanks Dan!

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Dan Brickley <danbri at danbri.org> wrote:

> On 2 January 2011 09:59, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> the subject-line is of course provocative,
>>
>>
>> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/12/22/wealth-and-health-of-200-countries-in-the-world-over-last-200-years.aspxis a must watch video
>>
>> what rossling shows is almost 200 years of uninterrupted progress in terms
>> of poverty and health, and that the west and the global south are actually
>> converging
>>
>> quite contrary to the usual narrative from some on the left
>>
>
> I love his work. One thing he does emphasise, and show very visually with
> the gapminder tools in some presentations, ...is that you can break down big
> regions ("Africa", "China") into subnational units. Sometimes it is useful
> to compose a big picture from sweeping concepts like "Africa", other times
> we learn more from looking at cities, nations, even smaller regions. The
> important thing is to have the data in public shared space, and the tools
> widely available so that every can explore their own re-presentation of the
> raw materials.  And of course within a city or any population, there can be
> huge inequalities. But we can celebrate the real progress of the last 200
> years without being complacent, I'm sure.
>
> For example, there was recently some fuss about fraud in Japan affecting
> longevity stats there, where old age pensions were being collected by
> families after death of the relative. See
> http://abcnews.go.com/International/scandal-missing-100-year-olds-graying-japan/story?id=11393615&page=3....  but if we have (a) the underlying data, attributed to its source (b)
> our own access to the visualisation tools, then it's possible for others to
> examine and explore the way those revelations affect the bigger picture.
> That would work even in schools -- "OK, so how would this look, if we assume
> that in Japan's figures...[insert statistical blabla here :]", then re-run
> the visualization.
>
>
>> rossling does not deny inequalities, but subsumes them under a broader
>> narrative of social progress, and he stresses that even most laggard have
>> very broadly progressed in health and life expectancy
>>
>> of course the great missing ingredient in here is the third axis of
>> environmental externalities, resource depletion etc ..
>>
>> 2 questions:
>>
>> 1) are rosling figures sound?
>>
>
> I don't know for sure. My impression is yes, but that's anecdotal.
>
>
>> 2) how would that third axis change the picture ....
>>
>
> I don't know that either. Good question.
>
> But I do know that his GapMinder tools are available through Google now,
> either as a 'widget' in the Google Spreadsheets system, or their
> Visualization toolkit. Look for "Motion Chart" in
> http://code.google.com/apis/visualization/documentation/gallery.html :)
>
> So the great thing here is we don't have to wait for another TV series to
> find out, using equivalent visuals. We just need the best data we can get
> our hands on. And for now, a Google account - the tools are freely available
> but not opensource. Actually you don't need the google account except for
> the Google spreadsheets stuff;
> http://code.google.com/p/gwt-google-apis/wiki/VisualizationGettingStartedcan be run on your own site (though it will I think load software from
> google.com).
>
> cheers,
>
> Dan
>
>
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