[p2p-research] really a must read book about p2p-oriented, neonomadic economic infrastructures
Michel Bauwens
michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Sun Sep 19 22:42:07 CEST 2010
Dear David,
I have already gone both through your phyles and power of networks book, and
very happy for doing so, and will refract a number of things on our blog in
the next few days and week,
however, because I'm on the road, I may not be able to very actively
intervene in the debate at this stage, but will follow it very closely,
hopefully we can meet someday in madrid ... in november I should be in
buenos aires and rio, but no plans for montevideo,
Michel
2010/9/19 David de Ugarte <david at lasindias.coop>
> Dear Michel, Thomas and friends,
> Dear indianos and itinerantes,
>
> It is always unfair to summarize almost 21 years of discussion and the
> uncountable subjects product of 10 years of economic building in few more
> than two thousand words...
>
> But once I recognized myself in unfairness, I decided to take it into an
> absolute new level writing it directly in English. A beautiful language...
> when Im not writing it :-D
>
> Anyway I hope it could be a good starting point for discussing and sharing
> our experience
>
> http://elarte.coop/neovenetianism-in-a-nutshell-from-networks-to-phyles/
>
> Abrazos para todos
> David
> PS. I hope my fellow indianos and itinerantes will complete better than me
> the important subjects I surely forgot in the post. Please feel free to
> comment the post in Spanish or Portuguese, I will translate them later to
> English.
>
>
>
> On 18/09/10 10:00, Michel Bauwens wrote:
>
>> Dear Thomas,
>> I'm copying David de Ugarte, the author, to see if we can have a
>> discussion going,
>> Michel
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Thomas Greco <thg at mindspring.com
>> <mailto:thg at mindspring.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Michel,
>> Thanks for that reference
>> (http://p2pfoundation.net/Economic_Democracy_in_the_Network_Century).
>> I've only skimmed the beginning and ending but I see much food for
>> thought and discussion.
>> I would like to be involved in a discussion around these two
>> paragraphs from pages 8 and 9:
>>
>> We are in the process of going from a world of decentralised
>> networks to a world of distributed networks. This is evidenced
>> in communication as a crisis in the
>>
>> information systems of agencies and newspapers; in the cultural
>> sphere as a crisis in the current industrial model for films,
>> books, and music; in democracy as citizens'
>>
>> cyberthrongs; and in war as a new paradigm. This shift leads us
>> to a new paradigm, seen in the complex world of collective
>> identities in the increasingly important role of a
>>
>> new kind of community, communities which are closer to the old
>> real, contiguity-based communities than to the great
>> nationalistic imaginaries of Modernity. We are
>>
>> experiencing, in that area, another shift, one taking us from
>> nations to networks.
>>
>> Studying this latter dimension, the changes in the identity
>> patterns of our time, we discover a new kind of socio-economic
>> organisation: the phyle. The phyle is much
>>
>> more than a kind of business; it has, among its main features,
>> all the elements that articulate our time – it is born from the
>> experience of socialisation in virtual
>>
>> communities, it is transnational, and it vindicates new forms of
>> economic democracy which, in turn, link it to traditional
>> cooperativism.
>>
>> ===
>> And this one from the last chapter:
>>
>> The phyle is the most radical and simple of all materialisations
>> of the new distributed world, as well as the one that owes most
>> to all the others. It is the child of
>>
>> free software, of the blogosphere, of cyberactivism, of virtual
>> communities, of the globalisation of the small. The phyle is a
>> lifestyle that makes it possible for hackers,
>>
>> bricoleurs and libertarians to go on being what they are and to
>> grow. To leave a legacy. A legacy of knowledge, yes, but also a
>> legacy of maps – the maps of the new
>>
>> world, the maps that are drawn not to describe what cannot be
>> moved, but to be built by people and inhabited by their lives.
>>
>> I'm looking forward to seeing you at the conference in Germany,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Thomas H. Greco, Jr.
>> 520-820-0575 mobile
>> PO Box 42663, Tucson, AZ 85733, USA
>> Email: thg at mindspring.com <mailto:thg at mindspring.com>
>> Website: http://reinventingmoney.com <http://reinventingmoney.com/>
>> Blog-Beyond Money: http://beyondmoney.net <http://beyondmoney.net/>
>>
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>> My latest book, The End of Money and the Future of Civilization, is
>> now available. You can order it from ChelseaGreen.com, Amazon.com,
>> or your local bookstore.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Michel Bauwens <mailto:michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Thomas Greco -- thg <mailto:thg at mindspring.com> ; Bernard
>> Lietaer <mailto:blietaer at earthlink.net> ; Dante-Gabryell Monson
>> <mailto:dante.monson at gmail.com> ; Marilyn Mehlmann
>> <mailto:mmehlmann at gmail.com> ; Howard Rheingold
>> <mailto:howard.rheingold at gmail.com> ; Douglas Rushkoff
>> <mailto:rushkoff at rushkoff.com> ; Sergio Lub
>> <mailto:sergio.lub at gmail.com> ; Franco Iacomella
>> <mailto:yaco at gnu.org> ; Silke Helfrich
>> <mailto:Silke.Helfrich at gmx.de> ; David Bollier
>> <mailto:david at bollier.org> ; Beatriz Busaniche
>> <mailto:beatriz.busaniche at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 16, 2010 02:43 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* really a must read book about p2p-oriented,
>> neonomadic economic infrastructures
>>
>> see http://deugarte.com/gomi/phyles.pdf
>> processed at
>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Economic_Democracy_in_the_Network_Century
>>
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