[p2p-research] really a must read book about p2p-oriented, neonomadic economic infrastructures

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Sun Sep 19 22:42:07 CEST 2010


Dear David,

I have already gone both through your phyles and power of networks book, and
very happy for doing so, and will refract a number of things on our blog in
the next few days and week,

however, because I'm on the road, I may not be able to very actively
intervene in the debate at this stage, but will follow it very closely,

hopefully we can meet someday in madrid ... in november I should be in
buenos aires and rio, but no plans for montevideo,

Michel

2010/9/19 David de Ugarte <david at lasindias.coop>

> Dear Michel, Thomas and friends,
> Dear indianos and itinerantes,
>
> It is always unfair to summarize almost 21 years of discussion and the
> uncountable subjects product of 10 years of economic building in few more
> than two thousand words...
>
> But once I recognized myself in unfairness, I decided to take it into an
> absolute new level writing it directly in English. A beautiful language...
> when Im not writing it :-D
>
> Anyway I hope it could be a good starting point for discussing and sharing
> our experience
>
> http://elarte.coop/neovenetianism-in-a-nutshell-from-networks-to-phyles/
>
> Abrazos para todos
> David
> PS. I hope my fellow indianos and itinerantes  will complete better than me
> the important subjects I surely forgot in the post. Please feel free to
> comment the post in Spanish or Portuguese, I will translate them later to
> English.
>
>
>
> On 18/09/10 10:00, Michel Bauwens wrote:
>
>> Dear Thomas,
>> I'm copying David de Ugarte, the author, to see if we can have a
>> discussion going,
>> Michel
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Thomas Greco <thg at mindspring.com
>>  <mailto:thg at mindspring.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    Dear Michel,
>>    Thanks for that reference
>>    (http://p2pfoundation.net/Economic_Democracy_in_the_Network_Century).
>>    I've only skimmed the beginning and ending but I see much food for
>>    thought and discussion.
>>    I would like to be involved in a discussion around these two
>>    paragraphs from pages 8 and 9:
>>
>>        We are in the process of going from a world of decentralised
>>        networks to a world of distributed networks. This is evidenced
>>        in communication as a crisis in the
>>
>>        information systems of agencies and newspapers; in the cultural
>>        sphere as a crisis in the current industrial model for films,
>>        books, and music; in democracy as citizens'
>>
>>        cyberthrongs; and in war as a new paradigm. This shift leads us
>>        to a new paradigm, seen in the complex world of collective
>>        identities in the increasingly important role of a
>>
>>        new kind of community, communities which are closer to the old
>>        real, contiguity-based communities than to the great
>>        nationalistic imaginaries of Modernity. We are
>>
>>        experiencing, in that area, another shift, one taking us from
>>        nations to networks.
>>
>>        Studying this latter dimension, the changes in the identity
>>        patterns of our time, we discover a new kind of socio-economic
>>        organisation: the phyle. The phyle is much
>>
>>        more than a kind of business; it has, among its main features,
>>        all the elements that articulate our time – it is born from the
>>        experience of socialisation in virtual
>>
>>        communities, it is transnational, and it vindicates new forms of
>>        economic democracy which, in turn, link it to traditional
>>        cooperativism.
>>
>>    ===
>>    And this one from the last chapter:
>>
>>        The phyle is the most radical and simple of all materialisations
>>        of the new distributed world, as well as the one that owes most
>>        to all the others. It is the child of
>>
>>        free software, of the blogosphere, of cyberactivism, of virtual
>>        communities, of the globalisation of the small. The phyle is a
>>        lifestyle that makes it possible for hackers,
>>
>>        bricoleurs and libertarians to go on being what they are and to
>>        grow. To leave a legacy. A legacy of knowledge, yes, but also a
>>        legacy of maps – the maps of the new
>>
>>        world, the maps that are drawn not to describe what cannot be
>>        moved, but to be built by people and inhabited by their lives.
>>
>>    I'm looking forward to seeing you at the conference in Germany,
>>
>>    Tom
>>
>>    Thomas H. Greco, Jr.
>>    520-820-0575 mobile
>>    PO Box 42663, Tucson, AZ 85733, USA
>>    Email: thg at mindspring.com <mailto:thg at mindspring.com>
>>    Website: http://reinventingmoney.com <http://reinventingmoney.com/>
>>    Blog-Beyond Money: http://beyondmoney.net <http://beyondmoney.net/>
>>
>>    Blog-Tom's News and Views: http://tomazgreco.wordpress.com
>>    <http://tomazgreco.wordpress.com/>
>>    Photo Gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/tomazhg
>>    Skype/Twitter: tomazgreco
>>    My latest book, The End of Money and the Future of Civilization, is
>>    now available. You can order it from ChelseaGreen.com, Amazon.com,
>>    or your local bookstore.
>>
>>        ----- Original Message -----
>>        *From:* Michel Bauwens <mailto:michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>>        *To:* Thomas Greco -- thg <mailto:thg at mindspring.com> ; Bernard
>>        Lietaer <mailto:blietaer at earthlink.net> ; Dante-Gabryell Monson
>>        <mailto:dante.monson at gmail.com> ; Marilyn Mehlmann
>>        <mailto:mmehlmann at gmail.com> ; Howard Rheingold
>>        <mailto:howard.rheingold at gmail.com> ; Douglas Rushkoff
>>        <mailto:rushkoff at rushkoff.com> ; Sergio Lub
>>        <mailto:sergio.lub at gmail.com> ; Franco Iacomella
>>        <mailto:yaco at gnu.org> ; Silke Helfrich
>>        <mailto:Silke.Helfrich at gmx.de> ; David Bollier
>>        <mailto:david at bollier.org> ; Beatriz Busaniche
>>        <mailto:beatriz.busaniche at gmail.com>
>>        *Sent:* Thursday, September 16, 2010 02:43 PM
>>
>>        *Subject:* really a must read book about p2p-oriented,
>>        neonomadic economic infrastructures
>>
>>        see http://deugarte.com/gomi/phyles.pdf
>>        processed at
>>        http://p2pfoundation.net/Economic_Democracy_in_the_Network_Century
>>
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