[p2p-research] really a must read book about p2p-oriented, neonomadic economic infrastructures

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 28 23:06:18 CEST 2010


Dear Marilyn, dear Thomas,

thanks for your interest in the ideas and formulations of david de ugarte
and lasindias.net,

I met them 2 days ago and am very enthused to see this new phyle in action
...

David's community conducts its activities and dialogue in Spanish, but
perhaps he can be included in a conversation that we undertake via our p2p
list?

David, thanks for letting us know your thoughts on this,

in the meantime, at least for thomas, I can explain a lot of new info in
Berlin,

Marylin, we could skype after nov 15 as well,

Michel

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Marilyn Mehlmann <mmehlmann at gmail.com>wrote:

> Yes please.
> Where do we go from here?
> Marilyn*
>
>
> On 17 September 2010 18:45, Thomas Greco <thg at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>  Dear Michel,
>>
>> Thanks for that reference (
>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Economic_Democracy_in_the_Network_Century).
>>
>> I've only skimmed the beginning and ending but I see much food for thought
>> and discussion.
>>
>> I would like to be involved in a discussion around these two paragraphs
>> from pages 8 and 9:
>>
>>
>>  We are in the process of going from a world of decentralised networks to
>> a world of distributed networks. This is evidenced in communication as a
>> crisis in the
>>
>> information systems of agencies and newspapers; in the cultural sphere as
>> a crisis in the current industrial model for films, books, and music; in
>> democracy as citizens'
>>
>> cyberthrongs; and in war as a new paradigm. This shift leads us to a new
>> paradigm, seen in the complex world of collective identities in the
>> increasingly important role of a
>>
>> new kind of community, communities which are closer to the old real,
>> contiguity-based communities than to the great nationalistic imaginaries of
>> Modernity. We are
>>
>> experiencing, in that area, another shift, one taking us from nations to
>> networks.
>> Studying this latter dimension, the changes in the identity patterns of
>> our time, we discover a new kind of socio-economic organisation: the phyle.
>> The phyle is much
>>
>> more than a kind of business; it has, among its main features, all the
>> elements that articulate our time – it is born from the experience of
>> socialisation in virtual
>>
>> communities, it is transnational, and it vindicates new forms of economic
>> democracy which, in turn, link it to traditional cooperativism.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> And this one from the last chapter:
>>
>> The phyle is the most radical and simple of all materialisations of the
>> new distributed world, as well as the one that owes most to all the others.
>> It is the child of
>>
>> free software, of the blogosphere, of cyberactivism, of virtual
>> communities, of the globalisation of the small. The phyle is a lifestyle
>> that makes it possible for hackers,
>>
>> bricoleurs and libertarians to go on being what they are and to grow. To
>> leave a legacy. A legacy of knowledge, yes, but also a legacy of maps – the
>> maps of the new
>>
>> world, the maps that are drawn not to describe what cannot be moved, but
>> to be built by people and inhabited by their lives.
>>
>> I'm looking forward to seeing you at the conference in Germany,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Thomas H. Greco, Jr.
>> 520-820-0575 mobile
>> PO Box 42663, Tucson, AZ 85733, USA
>> Email: thg at mindspring.com
>> Website: http://reinventingmoney.com
>> Blog-Beyond Money: http://beyondmoney.net
>> Blog-Tom's News and Views: http://tomazgreco.wordpress.com
>> Photo Gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/tomazhg
>> Skype/Twitter: tomazgreco
>> My latest book, The End of Money and the Future of Civilization, is now
>> available. You can order it from ChelseaGreen.com, Amazon.com, or your local
>> bookstore.
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Thomas Greco -- thg <thg at mindspring.com> ; Bernard Lietaer<blietaer at earthlink.net>; Dante-Gabryell
>> Monson <dante.monson at gmail.com> ; Marilyn Mehlmann <mmehlmann at gmail.com>; Howard
>> Rheingold <howard.rheingold at gmail.com> ; Douglas Rushkoff<rushkoff at rushkoff.com>; Sergio
>> Lub <sergio.lub at gmail.com> ; Franco Iacomella <yaco at gnu.org> ; Silke
>> Helfrich <Silke.Helfrich at gmx.de> ; David Bollier <david at bollier.org> ; Beatriz
>> Busaniche <beatriz.busaniche at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 16, 2010 02:43 PM
>> *Subject:* really a must read book about p2p-oriented, neonomadic
>> economic infrastructures
>>
>>   see http://deugarte.com/gomi/phyles.pdf
>> processed at
>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Economic_Democracy_in_the_Network_Century
>>
>>
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