[p2p-research] towards hybrid p2p brother monks and sisters nons ?

[Kevin Flanagan]

Hey Dante,

Are you aware of http://www.auroville.org?

Regards

Kevin F



On 14 October 2010 09:31, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I would say, as an institution, probably not, but in some particular places,
> who knows, but I'm not aware of any projects in that sense,
>
> historically though, if we do go down the drain, it's always these types of
> resilient communities that have made civlisation survive, it happened
> several times in history,
>
> Michel
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson
> <dante.monson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Could the existing monasteries and friar / mendicant orders ,
>> religious and non religious ,
>> be an interesting ground for collaboration in a network of p2p commons
>> oriented phyles ?
>> Any Open Source Ecology projects in Monasteries / Ashram's ?
>> Have questions and parallels regarding commons and "peer property" been
>> made with monasteries ? Under what legal framework of property ownership do
>> various monasteries belong ?  Monasteries as Phyles ?
>> Thanks :)
>> --------------
>> some more links :
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendicant_orders
>> The mendicant orders are religious orders which depend directly on
>> the charity of the people for their livelihood. In principle, they do not
>> own property, either individually or collectively (see corporate poverty),
>> believing that this was the most pure way of life to copy followed by Jesus
>> Christ, in order that all their time and energy could be expended on
>> religious work.
>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Ecology
>> excerpt :
>> " We engage in what we call neo-subsistence, or technologically advanced
>> subsistence that blends ancient wisdom and new technology to provide a high
>> quality of life. The lifestyle includes meaningful work, service to the
>> greater global community, and leisure to pursue one's true interests. "
>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Phyles
>> "they are not companies linked to a community, but transnational
>> communities that have acquired enterprises in order to gain continuity in
>> time and robustness"
>> ---
>> ps: sorry for the english spelling mistake in the title - I meant "Nun's"
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Interesting, I wasn't aware, or had forgotten, about that monk/friar
>>> distinction, which I really think refer to universal roles, outside of a
>>> strict church viewpoint ...
>>>
>>> I guess many of us on the list are indeed functionally friars, and if we
>>> had a sustainable phyle, could support pure monk/researchers ...
>>>
>>> Anathem is a good book to read imagining a world where scientific friars
>>> would rule the world ...
>>>
>>> Not sure the time is ripe to create such highly structured secular orders
>>> though ..
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson
>>> <dante.monson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Michel,
>>>> perhaps you or some people you know have some overview on such
>>>> sociocultural and potentially legal reification ?
>>>> ----
>>>> Reflecting upon some adapted version, for a commons committed p2p
>>>> cooperative individualist paradigm ,
>>>> of the " Friar " and " Monk " lifestyles, and social status.
>>>> Am I a " P2P Friar" attempting to become a Hybrid " P2P Friar Monk " ?
>>>> ( what words can I use as to not need to differentiate between "male"
>>>> and "female" ? )
>>>> Or perhaps a " P2P Pilgrim Friar Monk Evangelist " ?
>>>> If so, how is it recognized by society ?
>>>> In which society ?
>>>> Can I have it recognized in Western Society ?
>>>> Does this apply to a specific legal status ?
>>>> ---------------------
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friar
>>>> Friars differ from monks in that they are called to live the evangelical
>>>> counsels (vows of poverty, chastity and obedience) in service to a
>>>> community, rather than through cloistered asceticism and devotion. Whereas
>>>> monks live cloistered away from the world in a self-sufficient community,
>>>> friars are supported by donations or other charitable support.[1] A monk or
>>>> nun makes their vows and commits to a particular community in a particular
>>>> place. A friar in making vows commits to a community spread across a wider
>>>> geographical area (a province) and so a friar will typically move around
>>>> spending time in different houses of the community within the province.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monk
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelism
>>>> Evangelism refers to the practice of relaying information about a
>>>> particular set of beliefs to others who do not hold those beliefs.
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrimage
>>>> In religion and spirituality, a pilgrimage is a long [quest|journey]
>>>> or search of great moral significance. Sometimes, it is a journey to
>>>> a shrineof importance to a person's beliefs and faith.
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-Peer_(meme)
>>>> P2P is a specific form of relational dynamic, based on the assumed
>>>> equipotency of its participants, organized through the free cooperation of
>>>> equals in view of the performance of a common task, for the creation of a
>>>> common good, with forms of decision-making and autonomy that are widely
>>>> distributed throughout the network.
>>>
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