[p2p-research] towards hybrid p2p brother monks and sisters nons ?

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

*Could the existing monasteries and friar / mendicant orders ,*
religious and non religious ,
*be an interesting ground for collaboration in a network of p2p commons
oriented phyles ?*
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Any Open Source Ecology projects in Monasteries / Ashram's ?

Have questions and parallels regarding commons and "peer property" been made
with monasteries ? Under what legal framework of property ownership do
various monasteries belong ?  Monasteries as Phyles ?

Thanks :)

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some more links :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendicant_orders
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*The **mendicant orders** are **religious
orders*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_order>
* which depend directly on the
**charity*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_(practice)>
* of the people for their livelihood. In principle, they do not own **
property* <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Property>*, either individually or
collectively (see **corporate
poverty*<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_poverty>
*), believing that this was the most pure way of life to copy followed
by **Jesus
Christ* <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Christ>*, in order that all
their time and energy could be expended on religious work.*
*
*
*http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Ecology*
*
*
*excerpt : *
*" We engage in what we call neo-subsistence, or technologically advanced
subsistence that blends ancient wisdom and new technology to provide a high
quality of life. The lifestyle includes meaningful work, service to the
greater global community, and leisure to pursue one's true interests. "*
*
*
*http://p2pfoundation.net/Phyles*
*
*
*"they are not companies linked to a community, but transnational
communities that have acquired enterprises in order to gain continuity in
time and robustness"*
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*
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ps: sorry for the english spelling mistake in the title - I meant "Nun's"

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Interesting, I wasn't aware, or had forgotten, about that monk/friar
> distinction, which I really think refer to universal roles, outside of a
> strict church viewpoint ...
>
> I guess many of us on the list are indeed functionally friars, and if we
> had a sustainable phyle, could support pure monk/researchers ...
>
> Anathem is a good book to read imagining a world where scientific friars
> would rule the world ...
>
> Not sure the time is ripe to create such highly structured secular orders
> though ..
>
> Michel
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
> dante.monson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Michel,
>> perhaps you or some people you know have some overview on such
>> sociocultural and potentially legal reification ?
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Reflecting upon some adapted version, for a commons committed p2p
>> cooperative individualist paradigm ,
>>
>> of the " Friar " and " Monk " *lifestyles, and social status*.
>>
>> Am I a " P2P Friar" attempting to become a Hybrid " P2P Friar Monk " ?
>> ( what words can I use as to not need to differentiate between "male" and
>> "female" ? )
>>
>> Or perhaps a " P2P Pilgrim Friar Monk Evangelist " ?
>>
>> If so, how is it recognized by society ?
>>
>> In which society ?
>>
>> Can I have it recognized in Western Society ?
>> Does this apply to a specific legal status ?
>>
>> ---------------------
>>
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friar
>>
>>  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friar>Friars differ from monks<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monk> in
>> that they are called to live the evangelical counsels (vows of poverty,
>> chastity and obedience) in service to a community, rather than through
>> cloistered <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloister> asceticism<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asceticism> and
>> devotion. Whereas monks live cloistered away from the world in a
>> self-sufficient community, friars are supported by donations or other
>> charitable support.[1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friar#cite_note-0> A
>> monk or nun makes their vows and commits to a particular community in a
>> particular place. A friar in making vows commits to a community spread
>> across a wider geographical area (a province) and so a friar will typically
>> move around spending time in different houses of the community within the
>> province.
>>
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monk
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelism
>>
>> *Evangelism* refers to the practice of relaying information about a
>> particular set of beliefs to others who do not hold those beliefs.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrimage
>>
>> In religion <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion> and spirituality<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality>,
>> a *pilgrimage* is a long [quest|journey] or search<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search> of
>> great moral <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral> significance. Sometimes,
>> it is a journey to a shrine <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrine>of
>> importance to a person's beliefs <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belief>
>>  and faith <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith>.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-Peer_(meme)
>>
>> P2P is a specific form of relational dynamic, based on the assumed
>> equipotency of its participants, organized through the free cooperation of
>> equals in view of the performance of a common task, for the creation of a
>> common good, with forms of decision-making and autonomy that are widely
>> distributed throughout the network.
>>
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