[p2p-research] Non digital commons a lot more complicated than Free Software

[Michel Bauwens]

and how do you suppose digital commoners would do that, given that relative
little of the world's resources are under commoners control?

there is a wide variety of green computing efforts out there already, but
given current social structures, there is only so much that can be
realistically achieved under current conditions

if we cannot even tackle the clear and present danger of climate change, and
abolishing the present system cannot be achieved by simply wishing it, what
is your concrete way forward, beyond what is happening now, i.e. creating
digital commons, connect them with sustainability communities, working on
green computing, and constructing an infrastructure for social change,

Michel

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:41 AM, j.martin.pedersen <
m.pedersen at lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:

>
> There is something to be said for digital commons being simplified,
> rather than less complicated. If a digital commoner acknowledged her
> resource use and had to organise that - instead of leaving it to nuclear
> power and mining corporations - than digital commons would be a lot more
> complicated, because they do not only involve virtual light, but an
> enormous amount of resources.
>
> Traditional commons are much more "simple", they just handle natural
> resources and not a technological, virtual layer on top.
>
> If digital commoners want to join forces with all the other commoners -
> whose movements started a thousand year ago and who began to constitute
> themselves in the Magna Carta processes - then they need to come to
> terms with energy and resource use and face up to the fact that any
> commons ought to be responsible to the earth for its impact upon it.
>
> So far the entire digital commons movement seems to be hiding behind
> "immateriality"
>
>
> On 22/11/10 23:25, Michel Bauwens wrote:
> > very interesting, thanks Marco,
> >
> > just in case, I copy laura here in buenos aires, who has hacker friends
> who
> > could be interested in our work on free software in the catholic
> movements,
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 4:21 AM, M. Fioretti <mfioretti at nexaima.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> John Wilbanks of Creative Commons explains some of the reasons for
> >> this (which was also a theme of the ICC in Berlin) at
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://stop.zona-m.net/2010/11/non-digital-commons-a-lot-more-complicated-than-free-software/
> >>
> >> (copying Glynn Moody because this was also a theme of the workshop in
> >> Berlin that he and Pat Mooney coordinated)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend on how
> >> software is used *around* you:
> http://digifreedom.net/node/84
> >>
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