[p2p-research] The Cybernetic Hypothesis

[Michel Bauwens]

thanks Jos,

Michel

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Joss Winn <joss at josswinn.org> wrote:

>
> On 28/05/10 03:14, Michel Bauwens wrote:
> > feel free to write on the last paragraph here below, for our blog ..
> >
>
> Thanks. I am starting to write some notes which I'll post to this list
> for comment prior to publishing on the P2P blog.
>
>
> > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Joss Winn <joss at josswinn.org
>  > <mailto:joss at josswinn.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     For background on Tiqqun, I recommend:
> >
> >     http://tiqqunerie.jottit.com/
> >
> >     Agamben and their publisher, Hazan, speak about Tiqqun here:
> >
> >
> http://notesforthecomingcommunity.blogspot.com/2009/04/agamben-apropos-of-tiqqun.html
> >     (video)
> >
> >     transcript here:
> >
> >
> http://anarchistwithoutcontent.wordpress.com/2010/04/18/tiqqun-apocrypha-repost/
> >
> >     More translations can be found here:
> >
> >     http://tiqqunista.jottit.com/
> >
> >     and collected information about their arrest can be found here:
> >
> >     http://www.notbored.org/tarnac.html
> >
> >     I've just finished reading The Cybernetic Hypothesis and think that
> >     while the text is a ravaging critique of Cybernetics/Systems Theory
> as
> >     Capitalism and its 'tyranny of transparency', the final few chapters
> of
> >     the Hypothesis, do offer some steps forward for P2P activists, with
> >     their ideas around panic, Temporary Autonomous Zones,
> interference/fog,
> >     slowness and ultimately communism.
> >
> >
> >     Joss
> >
> >
> >
> >     On 27/05/10 15:46, j.martin.pedersen wrote:
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > On 27/05/10 15:39, Denis Postle wrote:
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >> On 5/26/2010 5:30 PM, Joss Winn wrote:
> >     >>> This may interest some of you. An English translation of The
> >     Cybernetic
> >     >>> Hypothesis, which appeared in the Tiqqun journal (2001) is now
> >     available:
> >     >>>
> >     >>> http://cybernet.jottit.com/
> >     >>>
> >     >>> I am quite new to this material, but my summary of it so far, is
> >     that
> >     >>> it's a ruthless and challenging attack on Cybernetics, which
> >     they equate
> >     >>> with modern Capitalism, both drawing on and simultaneously
> >     critiquing a
> >     >>> number of European intellectual traditions.
> >     >>>
> >     >>> I'm enjoying it.
> >     >>>
> >     >> Yes very valuable, thank you. Any idea of who the author(s) were?
> >     >
> >     > it emerges from the group of people around the
> >     > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiqqun journal,
> >     >
> >     > some of who were the targets of the infamous anti-terror assault on
> >     > liberties in France:
> >     > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarnac_9
> >     >
> >     > it is a good piece in that it presents a critical side of
> technology
> >     > thinking that is absent from most the non-reflective glorification
> >     that
> >     > predominates cyberspace debates.
> >     >
> >     > -m
> >     >
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