[p2p-research] The Cybernetic Hypothesis

[Joss Winn]

On 28/05/10 03:14, Michel Bauwens wrote:
> feel free to write on the last paragraph here below, for our blog ..
> 

Thanks. I am starting to write some notes which I'll post to this list
for comment prior to publishing on the P2P blog.


> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Joss Winn <joss at josswinn.org
> <mailto:joss at josswinn.org>> wrote:
> 
>     For background on Tiqqun, I recommend:
> 
>     http://tiqqunerie.jottit.com/
> 
>     Agamben and their publisher, Hazan, speak about Tiqqun here:
> 
>     http://notesforthecomingcommunity.blogspot.com/2009/04/agamben-apropos-of-tiqqun.html
>     (video)
> 
>     transcript here:
> 
>     http://anarchistwithoutcontent.wordpress.com/2010/04/18/tiqqun-apocrypha-repost/
> 
>     More translations can be found here:
> 
>     http://tiqqunista.jottit.com/
> 
>     and collected information about their arrest can be found here:
> 
>     http://www.notbored.org/tarnac.html
> 
>     I've just finished reading The Cybernetic Hypothesis and think that
>     while the text is a ravaging critique of Cybernetics/Systems Theory as
>     Capitalism and its 'tyranny of transparency', the final few chapters of
>     the Hypothesis, do offer some steps forward for P2P activists, with
>     their ideas around panic, Temporary Autonomous Zones, interference/fog,
>     slowness and ultimately communism.
> 
> 
>     Joss
> 
> 
> 
>     On 27/05/10 15:46, j.martin.pedersen wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > On 27/05/10 15:39, Denis Postle wrote:
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On 5/26/2010 5:30 PM, Joss Winn wrote:
>     >>> This may interest some of you. An English translation of The
>     Cybernetic
>     >>> Hypothesis, which appeared in the Tiqqun journal (2001) is now
>     available:
>     >>>
>     >>> http://cybernet.jottit.com/
>     >>>
>     >>> I am quite new to this material, but my summary of it so far, is
>     that
>     >>> it's a ruthless and challenging attack on Cybernetics, which
>     they equate
>     >>> with modern Capitalism, both drawing on and simultaneously
>     critiquing a
>     >>> number of European intellectual traditions.
>     >>>
>     >>> I'm enjoying it.
>     >>>
>     >> Yes very valuable, thank you. Any idea of who the author(s) were?
>     >
>     > it emerges from the group of people around the
>     > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiqqun journal,
>     >
>     > some of who were the targets of the infamous anti-terror assault on
>     > liberties in France:
>     > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarnac_9
>     >
>     > it is a good piece in that it presents a critical side of technology
>     > thinking that is absent from most the non-reflective glorification
>     that
>     > predominates cyberspace debates.
>     >
>     > -m
>     >
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