[p2p-research] Is the p2p approach utopian?

[Michel Bauwens]

I wonder if that's really true,

of course, contagion is now a fact of life, but if you look at the Congo for
example, the global system could live very well with a few million deaths ..
even argentina was allowed to collapse without intervention ..

greece is different because it is so implicated in the prestige of the
european union ...

Michel

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Alex Rollin <alex.rollin at gmail.com> wrote:

> --
> Alex
>
> “It’s no longer possible for a country to collapse in isolation. Now
> we all collapse.
>
> The only path to stability is to equalize the consumption rates of the
> first and developing world. Our dream is no longer possible in the new
> world.” - Jared Diamond March 2010
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I have trouble understanding his position also, but a mistaken assumption
> > that free culture is opposed to livelyhoods seems the key.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > This is evidently not our approach. While we think that cooptation
> will
> >> > happen, and is happening, we also see it as a necessary maturation of
> >> > the
> >> > new infrastructure of social production, of the new  sharing and
> >> > commons-oriented consciousness, and these are trends which are to the
> >> > advantage of the communities of peer producers and sharers.
> >>
>
> It's important to 'tag' things at 'co-opted,' though, in my opinion.
> The co-opted thing may still be useful, but it is co-opted.  It is
> simply to say that a more useful, complex, and sublime position has
> been discovered, and quite often the entry fee is quite a bit higher.
>
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