[p2p-research] Fwd: Insight share a Participatory Video project

Thu May 6 21:19:53 CEST 2010

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From: Valentin Spirik <valentin.spirik at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Insight share a Participatory Video project
To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
Cc: jose ramos <actionforesight at gmail.com>, Christian Einfeldt <
einfeldt at gmail.com>, Synnove Mathe <synnove.mathe at gmail.com>,
dtpVideo at googlegroups.com

Dear all,

since I - months ago and in some earlier part of this discussion... -
recommended using cameras that record straight to hard disc etc.:

I just fell victim to a vendor lock-in strategy, at least if your country
allows software patents.

You may need to pay *licensing fees for your own footage shot with your own
camera that records to H.264 compressed video*...!!!

H.264 is the appropriation of your work from the moment you press that
record button on your H.264 camera.

The blog entry that started the discussion:

Why Our Civilization's Video Art and Culture is Threatened by the MPEG-LA

http://www.osnews.com/story/23236/Why_Our_Civilization_s_Video_Art_and_Culture_is_Threatened_by_the_MPEG-LA

My latest answer to the discussion:

H.264 licensing explained: it’s like “Schwarzer Peter” (“Old Maid”)

http://indiworks.wordpress.com/2010/05/06/h-264-licensing-explained-its-like-schwarzer-peter-old-maid/

Best,

Valentin Spirik

http://indiworks.wordpress.com/

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:

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> best wishes for 2010 Jose!!
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> can I share your bio on the p2p wiki?
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> do you have any material to present sousa's ideas on our p2p blog?
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> Michel
>   On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 6:35 PM, jose ramos <actionforesight at gmail.com>wrote:
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>> Hello folks, Michel and  Synnove
>>
>> My apologies it has taken me so long to respond. I've been
>> decompressing after very hard year and spend most of dec away from a
>> computer.
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>> Here is my story quite truncated, I hope I can contribute at least in
>> a small way.  I read through the emails but quite a lot of details.
>>
>> I'm not a software programmer, designer or explicitly open source
>> developer, but rather have a more activist orientation. I consider
>> myself part of and advocating for a broad alter-globalisation /
>> alter-mondialisme, including dealing with the climate crisis,   and
>> many other of the broad aims of the movemet / process / space.
>>
>> As part of this I'm also a social forum organiser, and have  been
>> involved in organising the Melbourne forum, LA social forum and now
>> the (planned) Asia Pacific SF.
>>
>> I've thus been inspired by the open source movements  that have woven
>> through the movements, and its prefigurative logics of making /
>> co-producing sufficiencies outside of the logic of the capitalist
>> system.
>>
>> Practically every website I'm involved in runs on OS. So over the
>> years I've learned mambo / joomla cms.
>>
>> I've also helped to found a group called plug in TV, which  produces
>> short docos for community TV and the web. we've put most pf the docos
>> on engage media www.engagemedia.org   who by the way developed the
>> platform for WSF TV (plume), and Plug in TV follows creative commons
>> in the general ethos of the alter-globalisation movement, to develop a
>> knowledge / informational commons, and contest and resist the
>> corporate colonisational of immaterial resources (common human
>> heritage).
>>
>> I have faced many challenges in these areas, and have many thoughts.
>> Generally we are at the beginning. In particular to develop global
>> platforms, there must be DEEP collaboration, which  requires
>> co-presence (flesh and bones),  Creating co-presence is one of the
>> most critical challenges, especially with the privatization of public
>> space. counter publics requires homes and havens and spaces of
>> presence.
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>> I have found the only way to collaboratively develop documentaries in
>> the p2p style has been to physically come together regularly during
>> production runs. And this is at the local level! Bringing diversity
>> together also brings challenges, and here I use the language of de
>> sousa santos 'depolarising pluralities'. Moving past ideologically
>> charged frames requires good community based facilitation and 'double
>> loop learning' (looking at various held assumptions).
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>> Processes get more challenging and complex as they get bigger and more
>> open. Horizontalism and network logics is powerful but it requires
>> much patience and nurturing and platform development and dialogic
>> prowess, much of which goes un recognised in our macho and vangardist
>> frames ;)
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>> I'll stop there, but would like to repeat something de sousa santos
>> has said: 'there can be no global justice without global cognitive
>> justice' - and thus I say another media production process is not only
>> possible, it is necessary.  So I certainly back up your proposal
>> Synnove and others, we must take baby steps before we learn to walk.
>>
>> peace to all
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>> jose
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>> On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Christian Einfeldt <einfeldt at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> > hi,
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>> > Thx to everyone for their suggestions and answers in response to my
>> question about transparencies.  I am going to be off-line for much of today
>> and tomorrow to spend w my gf.
>> >
>> > c u
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