[p2p-research] on the need for educational transmission in p2p

Sun May 2 09:14:08 CEST 2010

Daniel,

what about a serious study of non-institution centered knowledge
transmission and learning, we all know and experience it is happening, but
I'm not aware of how much this has been studied,

it could also be part of a larger P2P Research Institute, which I dream of,
and which could obtain funding for academic, scientific and participatory
research into all matters p2p,

the institution that starts this would be making a coup,

Michel

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Daniel Araya <daniel at levelsixmedia.com>wrote:

> Another important consideration is to try and develop p2p related
> research/publishing inside graduate education depts. That could build
> interest and funding...
>
> Best,
> Daniel
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Daniel Araya
>
> Global Studies in Education
> Department of Educational Policy Studies
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
> Champaign, IL
> USA
>
> On Sun May 2 2:02 , Michel Bauwens sent:
>
>   an important call and message from franz naharada:
>
>
> I just peeked into the latest p2p digest and found these VERY wise words
> by Daniel Araya
> "Can stigmergic innovation replace corporations and property-based
> capitalism? I would say yes possibly: If the innovation cycle is faster
> and of higher quality. In the meantime I see corporations developing
> platforms for collaborative innovation as the next wave of capitalism. P2P
> may ultimately replace this (I add: abusive scheme of)
> crowdsourcing/user-innovation but I would still argue that none of this
> will happen without a cultural project focused on transmitting skills and
> ideas. In other words, education... "
> Thats exactly what our focus must be in the coming months and years.
> Collective self-education as the center of transformation.
> Thats why I also think teaming up with Global Innovation Commons is
> utterly important.
> We must vigorously ask for the creation of a p2p education and knowledge
> transfer system that is focussed on local resilience and practical
> capabilities. We must do everything to link up with Transition Towns, Gaia
> University, P2PU and likeminded institutions and motivate those networks
> to reach out even more to local cores of community building that result in
> building, doing, making - at high quality.
> We must participate in larger efforts to phrase and distill the global
> importance of every local community experience and feed it back into a
> living body of experience.
> That is why I think VideoBridge is an important piece in the puzle.
> Your upcoming trip to Italy and the meeting with Negri and other
> multipliers is a unique opportunity to deepen the understanding that
> *attention has to be decoupled from the temporary and spectacular* and *it
> should be focussed on the reality of "bringing the mind home" into our
> everyday world* and thus lead to real connectedness.
> I see the ''piazza telematica'' idea refer and resonate with education and
> productive capacities, and in my view the conditions are super - ripe ;
> especially in italy  ; to lay out a more concrete vision of community
> empowerment.
> I tooled for some time on the technological side (Videobridging) and we
> are still struggling to create our collaboration rooms that really enable
> us to combine global cooperation with local impact. Giuseppe is one of the
> VideoBridgers and I hope he will come up with community based solutions in
> Italy.
> Video is one indispensible factor of this. But also design languages and
> common standards, and last but not least also a repository of stuff.
> (hence my emphasis on Global Innovation Commons)
> How will we bring this all together?
> a very small - seemingly unsignificant - example comes to my mind:
> One of our people who work in the village of Kirchbach
> (franz.rieger at hotmail.com ) is currently in Thailand. Its a really good
> example also in relation to your red shirt stories - a very poor area
> named Isaan.  He has been there for three months, helping in the
> development of the so called Lampao village. He is supporting a family
> there since years - pays for the tuition and living costs of 2 sons, one
> of them in Chiang Mai studying fishery by the way ;-)
> So here they are. A poor Village of (90%) rice farmers, and the rice field
> is too dry, and there is only one harvest per year possible. Education is
> very poor there, the agricultural equipment is old, the soil is sandy and
> dry, as is the climate outside the rain season. On the other side there is
> a giant artificial lake nearby, but it is located deeper than the rice
> fields of this particular village. So they came up with the idea of a
> solar driven pump; a solar collector should turn solar energy into
> mechanical energy (something that Juergen Kleinwaechter has already done
> with Sun Pulse). That mechanical energy should drive the pump. or if there
> are some niftier connections between the thermal and the flow side, find
> out about them.
> Kirchbach is the village where VideoBridging originated. Its great that
> people from there are engaging in global projects. It would be wonderful
> if there would be opportunities to link up individuals and groups all over
> the world in Videobridge centers to start synchronous telecooperation to
> solve everyday problems and empower people to deal with efficient
> technologies. Or even better, use the visual medium to clearly capture
> present and demonstrate problematiques and apply and comment on these
> visuals in video conversations.
> I encouraged Franz Rieger to address you in this context.
> This link between virtual and physical community is in a nutshell the core
> of the educational system that we need. We must start talking about it,
> and see who will be there to build it. We should at least be part of that
> effort.
> Franz
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Franz Nahrada <f.nahrada at reflex.at>
> Date: Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Reminder: VideoBridge Community in Greece
> To: michelsub2004 at gmail.com
> Cc: franz.rieger at hotmail.com, leitner at wikiservice.at, ralf at zoo.priv.at,
> uweplachetka at hotmail.com, giuseppesilvi at yahoo.it, gabram at aicalmi.it
>
>
> Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> schreibt:
> >hi franz,
> >
> >I'm leaving for another 5 weeks in 2-3 days, and ritght now,
> >going through my previous trip backlog, and stressing myself in the
> >process ...
> >
> >how can we make any progress,
> >I'm not hearing much from George P. ...
> >
> >Michel
>
>
> That is why I thought  a good step could be made in Italy. I have not
> heard from "my" (VideoBridge) people in Greece either recently. But maybe
> we could really bring up the issue simultaneously in several countries and
> use the momentum wherever we are in the moment.
>
>  I suggest you forward the following to your convenience:
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I just peeked into the latest p2p digest and found these VERY wise words
> by Daniel Araya
>
> "Can stigmergic innovation replace corporations and property-based
> capitalism? I would say yes possibly: If the innovation cycle is faster
> and of higher quality. In the meantime I see corporations developing
> platforms for collaborative innovation as the next wave of capitalism. P2P
> may ultimately replace this (I add: abusive scheme of)
> crowdsourcing/user-innovation but I would still argue that none of this
> will happen without a cultural project focused on transmitting skills and
> ideas. In other words, education... "
>
> Thats exactly what our focus must be in the coming months and years.
> Collective self-education as the center of transformation.
>
> Thats why I also think teaming up with Global Innovation Commons is
> utterly important.
>
> We must vigorously ask for the creation of a p2p education and knowledge
> transfer system that is focussed on local resilience and practical
> capabilities. We must do everything to link up with Transition Towns, Gaia
> University, P2PU and likeminded institutions and motivate those networks
> to reach out even more to local cores of community building that result in
> building, doing, making - at high quality.
>
> We must participate in larger efforts to phrase and distill the global
> importance of every local community experience and feed it back into a
> living body of experience.
>
> That is why I think VideoBridge is an important piece in the puzle.
>
> Your upcoming trip to Italy and the meeting with Negri and other
> multipliers is a unique opportunity to deepen the understanding that
> *attention has to be decoupled from the temporary and spectacular* and *it
> should be focussed on the reality of "bringing the mind home" into our
> everyday world* and thus lead to real connectedness.
>
> I see the ''piazza telematica'' idea refer and resonate with education and
> productive capacities, and in my view the conditions are super - ripe ;
> especially in italy  ; to lay out a more concrete vision of community
> empowerment.
>
> I tooled for some time on the technological side (Videobridging) and we
> are still struggling to create our collaboration rooms that really enable
> us to combine global cooperation with local impact. Giuseppe is one of the
> VideoBridgers and I hope he will come up with community based solutions in
> Italy.
>
> Video is one indispensible factor of this. But also design languages and
> common standards, and last but not least also a repository of stuff.
> (hence my emphasis on Global Innovation Commons)
>
> How will we bring this all together?
>
> a very small - seemingly unsignificant - example comes to my mind:
>
> One of our people who work in the village of Kirchbach
> (franz.rieger at hotmail.com ) is currently in Thailand. Its a really good
> example also in relation to your red shirt stories - a very poor area
> named Isaan.  He has been there for three months, helping in the
> development of the so called Lampao village. He is supporting a family
> there since years - pays for the tuition and living costs of 2 sons, one
> of them in Chiang Mai studying fishery by the way ;-)
>
> So here they are. A poor Village of (90%) rice farmers, and the rice field
> is too dry, and there is only one harvest per year possible. Education is
> very poor there, the agricultural equipment is old, the soil is sandy and
> dry, as is the climate outside the rain season. On the other side there is
> a giant artificial lake nearby, but it is located deeper than the rice
> fields of this particular village. So they came up with the idea of a
> solar driven pump; a solar collector should turn solar energy into
> mechanical energy (something that Juergen Kleinwaechter has already done
> with Sun Pulse). That mechanical energy should drive the pump. or if there
> are some niftier connections between the thermal and the flow side, find
> out about them.
>
> Kirchbach is the village where VideoBridging originated. Its great that
> people from there are engaging in global projects. It would be wonderful
> if there would be opportunities to link up individuals and groups all over
> the world in Videobridge centers to start synchronous telecooperation to
> solve everyday problems and empower people to deal with efficient
> technologies. Or even better, use the visual medium to clearly capture
> present and demonstrate problematiques and apply and comment on these
> visuals in video conversations.
>
> I encouraged Franz Rieger to address you in this context.
>
> This link between virtual and physical community is in a nutshell the core
> of the educational system that we need. We must start talking about it,
> and see who will be there to build it. We should at least be part of that
> effort.
>
> Franz
>
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