[p2p-research] Open Collaboration Journal: issue1

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 25 19:07:17 CET 2010


Hi Sam,

I'm sharing your comments with the author,

Michel

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:

> A couple of comments follow:
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > hi guys,
> >
> > it would be nice to receive a comments on the following proposed laws:
> >
> > LAW OF NONATTACHMENT IN A SYSTEM: A system phase transitions to a higher
> state when the participants become more nonattached e.g. they do not become
> attached to getting something in return for what they give.
>
> Clare W. Graves cautioned people to understand that change in human
> systems is "non-linear". Thus, there are no "higher states", only
> DIFFERENT states.  Other than this thematic component, I think the
> social dynamics described have some validity.
>
> Although, it seems reasonable that we'd want to find commonly
> recurring examples in the actual world before declaring these as
> "Laws".
>
> Some questions/observations off the top of my head:
>
> 1. What research, if any, makes up the basis of these findings? (I can
> find no reference in the article)
>
> 2. If research was performed, can we expect these phase transitions to
> hold true in cultures throughout the world?
>
> 3. Complex Adaptive Systems are mentioned in this article. From what I
> know of Complex Systems Theory, it would be possible to at least
> create a generative model of these system dynamics, to illustrate
> these phase transitions in at least a simulated way.
>
> > LAW OF EMPATHY IN A SYSTEM: A system phase transitions to a higher state
> as the amount of empathy of the participants increases.
> > LAW OF NONDUALITY IN A SYSTEM: A system phase transitions to a more
> integrated and cohesive system as it becomes more nondual. Examples of some
> nondualities that correlate with more highly functioning systems 1.
> wants=service 2. play=work 3. waste=food 4. you=me.
> > LAW OF DECENTERING IN A SYSTEM: A system phase transitions to a more
> transcendent state each time it decenters:   A social system decenters when
> it can become nonjudgementally aware of its own cultural norms, worldviews,
> social architectures and nonattach from it. A gift circle that can
> nonjudgmentally decenter from its format, culture, and worldviews, step back
> and nonattachedly observe itself, is moving to a higher level of
> development. This nonattachment allows it to evolve new formats and
> cultures.
> > LAW OF DIFFERENTIATION AND INTEGRATION: A system phase transitions to
> higher states where the parts/people are more individuated, and  also more
> integrated and synergized with each other. (This law is basically Ken
> Wilber's holonic tenet 12b )  A gift circle at higher levels would have
> individuals expressing a wide variety of unique needs and perspectives and
> have the group synergizing well and communicating clearly across values
> systems and worldviews to help meet those needs.
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: alpha lo <lyricalforest at gmail.com>
> > Date: Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:17 AM
> > Subject: Open Collaboration Journal: issue1
> > To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>
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