[p2p-research] keiretsu coop model for publishing

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 6 10:56:27 CET 2010


thanks guys, quoting in the blog on the 13th,

Michel

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Alex,
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Alex Rollin <alex.rollin at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I just read that and it doesn't really hold my attention.  I made it
> through
> > it anyways.
> > In this paper the author goes over a number of facts about the decline of
> > what might be called 'centralized' publishing.  Newspapers, book
> publishers,
> > and magazine publishers are looking for new ways of building an
> maintaining
> > audiences while turning their attention to the possibilities the internet
> > has to offer.  On the other side, in this paper, are the 'bloggers' and
> > 'twitterers' who are publishing.
> > The proposed cooperative publishing effort serves to provide a
> centralized
> > site where 'bloggers' can be published to the largest audience and
> receive
> > more notoriety as well as a potential income if there is money to be had.
> > This paper doesn't go into the ethics of content ownership in any
> meaningful
> > way, and it also doesn't really deal with the simple idea that large
> > centralized sites aren't important because Google search works really
> well.
> > The author spends a great deal of words explaining the environment and
> the
> > challenges to publishers, and uses a lot of bold type to enumerate the
> > potential gains to authors.  While those gains are probably enough to
> invite
> > folks into a publishing cooperative, I believe that the issues she
> doesn't
> > deal with, like content ownership, are at the very least a deciding
> factor
> > for participants in some way.
> >
> > Alex
> > I cannot teach anybody anything, I can only make them think.- Socrates
> >
> >
>
> I had to quote your whole email because it was worth reading again.
> Paul Hartzog and Richard Adler covered much of this in their approach
> around "social publishing".  They presented this at the 2007 Political
> Economies of Peer Production conference in Nottingham, UK.
>
> Worth reading in this context is:
> http://many.corante.com/archives/2006/09/02/social_publishing.php both
> Paul and Rick collaborated on this thinking. Much of the basics of
> this are now central to Forward Foundation approaches, so credit goes
> to them for challenging assumptions about this.
>
> I bring this up because I think it resonates with what you are talking
> about here. You can't do things that purport to be something new, but
> still shore up the collapsing old model (unless you have a really good
> reason to do that).
>
> A cooperative could be a great model for a publishing initiative. But
> cooperative model is not enough. You also need an adaptive way to
> address the what is now emerging, which is an exponentially growing
> system where people exercise choice in what they engage with. When
> we're listening to what people are asking for, and mapping them and
> ourselves into the larger system, then we'll see how it is possible
> for us to be flexible enough as publishers, to anyone/anything else,
> to address emerging needs that cannot be addressed with boilerplate
> solutions.
>
>
>
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://people.oii.ox.ac.uk/dutton/2010/03/01/a-new-model-for-online-publishing-the-keiretsu-cooperative-an-oii-issue-brief/
> >>
> >> could someone look into this for our p2p blog?
> >>
> >> many thanks
> >>
> >> this is the first day of my five week lecture tour ... I hope to have
> >> extra contributions from the community during this time!!
> >>
> >> Michel
> >>
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