[p2p-research] Brock

[Michel Bauwens]

Thanks Ryan,

looking at our own life though, I'm sure quite a few of us would argue that
we've experierenced a quantum leap in learning ... things that used to take
months, take days ... of course now we feel overwhelmed (which may appear as
'low productivity'), but compared to the pre-internet days, for knowledge
work, I think there is no comparison. Of course, not all of us have been
equally affected, because of all the barriers to access, learning, abilities
to deal with increased complexity etc...

and most organizations have not undergone any significant 'social business
design' to take these changes into account, hence my feeling that these
leaps are occuring outside the classic organisations, in the civil field,
instead of in the corporate and state structures ...

Michel

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 3/1/10, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> we did mention it on our blog,  it's indeed a stellar presentation,
>>
>> Michel
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Linda Nowakowski <lindern at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Didn't know if you had seen this and couldn't find it on yoursite though
>>> I found a lot of other references to Art Brock.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://prezi.com/xmzld_-wayho/new-economy-new-wealth/
>>>
>>
>
> I liked the Art Brock presentation, too.  I particularly like the fact that
> he makes capitalism, socialism and communism all equally obsolete--a point I
> concur with strongly.  Where I don't personally accept his argument is in
> the domain of "productivity."  There is no strong proof or even any
> inkling that information itself leads to productivity.
>
> Learning and learning machines certainly both do, but information must be
> applied to achieve productivity--particularly the quantum leaps Art Brock
> anticipates.
>
> So long as the means of applying information are scarce (that is, mental
> capacity is limited and libraries and research, etc. are not open) then
> there can be little or movement toward the post-capital economies he
> discusses.  Too often we assume this leap (because we have experienced the
> major impact of Google/Wikipedia, etc.) when in fact it is the crux of the
> matter.
>
> The HOW of widescale learning and learning machines is the key enabling
> factor.  Of course once we have these learning engines, people will need
> access to them.  At present, systems like Google are at best very imperfect
> in valuing data, etc, so we still ask filter humans such as physicians to
> make sense of all the studies, etc.  This will increasingly decline as
> machines become more trustworthy.  Here to there is the step that moves us
> out of the boundary lands Art Brock depicts us in.  I'd label his top box
> "learning" not information.  Information, strictly speaking, informs.  But
> that is not the way we use the word.  We use it to mean something closer to
> data.
>
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