[p2p-research] Role of civil society

[Michel Bauwens]

no problem, thanks for the info!

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 4:58 PM, j.martin.pedersen <
m.pedersen at lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:

>
> I have some quotes and references somewhere, as it was part of my PhD
> thesis at some point, but no time at the moment to dig them out.
>
> However, they clearly define (their version(s)) of "global civil
> society" as non-violent. That is, in the their efforts to conceptualise
> "global civil society" they exclude groups that are not non-violent. It
> is a gate keeper function. It effectively excludes radical alternatives
> and struggling groups and peoples who in self-defense have to take up
> arms. Indigenous peoples, for example, defending their territories with
> spears, blocking infrastructure and standing up to armies with rocks and
> dynamite. They are excluded on those pedestrian, liberal conceptions.
>
> Not very detailed, but out of time. Sorry.
>
>
> On 03/06/10 04:37, Michel Bauwens wrote:
> > can you say a little more on keane and kaldor?
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:27 PM, j.martin.pedersen <
> > m.pedersen at lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On 02/06/10 14:30, Ryan Lanham wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have worked in non-profit, universities, for profit and government.
>  I
> >>> really see very little ethical difference between any of these.  Top
> >> people
> >>> are typically ambitious and have conflicting motivations.  Junior
> people
> >> are
> >>> generally trod upon, quick to slack off, and lacking in long-term
> >>> commitment.
> >>
> >> They are indeed all the same from an anarchist perspective. Try radical
> >> social movements and local anarchist struggles for an alternative. There
> >> are many people and groups out there who stay dedicated to
> >> non-hierarchical resistance their whole lives. Not enough, but this kind
> >> of statement quite simply writes them out of the equation entirely, as
> >> if they didn't exist, thus lacking, in this context, the most important
> >> potential for change.
> >>
> >> The way global civil society is being conceptualised by Keane, Kaldor et
> >> al. is a status quo oriented, oppressive pacifism.
> >>
> >> There is much more to the story.
> >>
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