[p2p-research] Role of civil society

j.martin.pedersen m.pedersen at lancaster.ac.uk
Thu Jun 3 11:58:23 CEST 2010


I have some quotes and references somewhere, as it was part of my PhD
thesis at some point, but no time at the moment to dig them out.

However, they clearly define (their version(s)) of "global civil
society" as non-violent. That is, in the their efforts to conceptualise
"global civil society" they exclude groups that are not non-violent. It
is a gate keeper function. It effectively excludes radical alternatives
and struggling groups and peoples who in self-defense have to take up
arms. Indigenous peoples, for example, defending their territories with
spears, blocking infrastructure and standing up to armies with rocks and
dynamite. They are excluded on those pedestrian, liberal conceptions.

Not very detailed, but out of time. Sorry.


On 03/06/10 04:37, Michel Bauwens wrote:
> can you say a little more on keane and kaldor?
> 
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:27 PM, j.martin.pedersen <
> m.pedersen at lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
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>> On 02/06/10 14:30, Ryan Lanham wrote:
>>>
>>> I have worked in non-profit, universities, for profit and government.  I
>>> really see very little ethical difference between any of these.  Top
>> people
>>> are typically ambitious and have conflicting motivations.  Junior people
>> are
>>> generally trod upon, quick to slack off, and lacking in long-term
>>> commitment.
>>
>> They are indeed all the same from an anarchist perspective. Try radical
>> social movements and local anarchist struggles for an alternative. There
>> are many people and groups out there who stay dedicated to
>> non-hierarchical resistance their whole lives. Not enough, but this kind
>> of statement quite simply writes them out of the equation entirely, as
>> if they didn't exist, thus lacking, in this context, the most important
>> potential for change.
>>
>> The way global civil society is being conceptualised by Keane, Kaldor et
>> al. is a status quo oriented, oppressive pacifism.
>>
>> There is much more to the story.
>>
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