[p2p-research] Fw: babysitting coop as civic network

[Michel Bauwens]

Hi neal,

i'm very interested in the timing issue for p2p change,

could you explain more in detail what the late K state is, and how and where
buzz discusses this? (or send links if you know of any)

Michel

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Neal Gorenflo <neal at shareable.net> wrote:

> Alex,
>
> Very interesting about what you bring up about scale.  I spoke last week at
> the Viennese Talks About Resilience & Networks with Buzz Holling, Bernard
> Lietaer, Harald Katzmair, and others.
>
> A strong theme emerged about the importance of cross scale linkages.  In
> the resilience framework, adaptation is made much more difficult if there
> are no or weak cross-scale links.
>
> Yet, in the context of social change currently, Buzz made the point that
> political organization at the national and international level is so
> constrained, so unable to respond, that his advice was to not get depressed
> about it, it's natural at this phase of an adaptive cycle (late K), and
> instead do something positive you know about at your scale for the common
> good.
>
> Community organizing is perfect for this because it connects individuals
> with small groups and small groups with a neighborhood and a neighborhood to
> a city.  It connects all the scales where there still some room to maneuver.
>
> In the resilience context, p2p innovations are quite adaptive as work
> arounds the frozen upper scales creating new patterns of value creation that
> set the stage for a new economy that uses less energy,creates more value, is
> more resilient, and distributes value more broadly.  Anyway, let's hope so
> ;)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Neal
>
> --
>
> Neal Gorenflo || Publisher, http://shareable.net || @ShareableDesign
>
>
>   On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Alex Rollin <alex.rollin at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> What do you think of when you see this list?
>>
>> Boy Scouts of America
>> Chamber of Commerce / Junior Chamber of Commerce
>> Alcoholics Anonymous
>> Future Farmers of America
>> Rotary International / Rotaract
>> The Freemasons
>>
>> I'm a member of more than 2 of these, myself.  Many of them follow the
>> bulk of the rules outlined in the Shareable post.
>>
>> I would add churches to the list as well, but I think it's pretty clear by
>> now that modernity and postmodernity make it rather difficult for the
>> average human to simply walk into a church, get on with everyone, and feel
>> well enough at home to contribute to the common good.
>>
>> The future of civic networks will require something that none of these
>> offer, while still offering everything that these offer (in another/some
>> form).
>>
>> While in graduate school I spent quite a bit of time researching civic
>> network protocol.  One place where I spent some time was in churches doing
>> political organizing...just like Barack Obama...and my teacher was form the
>> same lineage as Obama's, as a matter of fact.  The idea behind this was that
>> churches, in America, remain the last standing consumer power base
>> aggregation point of any worthy note.  It was unfortunate that this was the
>> case, but it was and still is true all the same.
>>
>> At any rate, my time spent on this line of work was centered around
>> understanding how small teams of one or two people can quickly facilitate a
>> self-organizing node in a network (of churches / religious people / people).
>>  This node, ideally, would be resilient and responsive to the needs of the
>> community, quickly growing and  iterating to provide for the various needs
>> of the community with regards to committing themselves further towards the
>> needs of the members of the network node, all the while staying
>> action-oriented towards a common superordinate goal.
>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Superordinate_Goal
>>
>> I spent over 10 years in this variety of organizing, at the explicitly
>> personal/individual and node, and intra-node.  My now issue of the past 6
>> years has more to do with 'network jumping' between networks created around
>> superordinate goals  Networks of networks of networks of networks of
>> networks of networks...  Turtles all the way down.  Protocol every which
>> way.
>>
>> At this moment I am most concerned with the set of principles that allows
>> us to understand how scale invariance looks, as a protocol, at what only
>> appears to be different layers.  It's as if we look at the personal, the
>> node, the intra-node, and we would like to think that there really are
>> different things happening at each level.  I just don't believe that.  I
>> know it's not true.
>>
>> The Next civic organizations are built of protocol that allows for scale
>> invariance.  As above, so below.
>>
>> It's my intention to continue to work on documenting what the heck that
>> looks like on the P2P Foundation wiki.  Scale invariance for protocol
>> requires lots and lots of documentation.  Everything that would be true for
>> a country is true for an individual.  Every principle that holds a people
>> together is so for individuals.  Each interaction has some anallog at every
>> level.
>>
>> Alex Rollin
>> http://alexrollin.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Gary Myers <garymyers222 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  What is your best example of a civic network?
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>>> *To:* Alex Rollin <alex.rollin at gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* Gary Myers <garymyers222 at yahoo.com>
>>> *Sent:* Sun, May 30, 2010 12:34:22 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: Fw: babysitting coop as civic network
>>>
>>> dear alex, here are the 20 rules:
>>>
>>>
>>> *1. Should be engaged in a perpetual campaign to improve the quality of
>>> life on the ground. Must be rooted in local communities unified by a common
>>> vision that everyone can work toward. They must create a narrative that is
>>> open for users to dialog with that guides action and gives purpose.*
>>>
>>> *2. Must help individuals self-assess, self-author their lives, fully
>>> express their passions in the community, and become leaders in the field of
>>> their choice, however obscure. The network should give users the opportunity
>>> to:*
>>>
>>> ** Know their strengths and passions
>>> * Help others according to strengths and passions
>>> * Develop projects aligned with their beliefs, strenghts and passions
>>> * Invite others to help them with their projects
>>> * Become leaders by doing the above*
>>>
>>> *3. Must cultivate moderators at each level of the network
>>> (inter-household, neighborhood, community) willing to promote, moderate,
>>> grow and manage the community.*
>>>
>>> *4. Must offer a wide variety of services that enable citizens to
>>> self-organize to meet their needs. To get a critical mass of participation
>>> at the local level, civic networks will have to offer a wide range of
>>> services. Like Facebook, the civic network will be a platform for
>>> applications. The only difference is that civic applications are focused on
>>> increasing quality of life rather wasting users time.*
>>>
>>> *5. Must create a culture of cooperation through such things as:*
>>>
>>> ** Personal profiles that inventory an individuals skills, talents,
>>> experience, knowledge, goals, and projects and invite collaboration
>>> * Create norms for cooperation, trust, and social connections through
>>> soft (culture-based) and hard (software-based) methods *
>>>
>>> *6. Cooperation must follow a developmental path from simple, easy, low
>>> trust collaborations like exchanging information to more complex, more
>>> difficult, higher trust activities like cooperative childcare, artistic
>>> collaborations, and asset sharing.*
>>>
>>> *7. Must make visible human and physical assets of the network. An asset
>>> map better allows users and the community to mobilize resources to achieve
>>> goals.*
>>>
>>> *8. Must connect individuals and organizations in the network in a
>>> system of explicit interdependence and mutual benefit. This means that every
>>> entity knows not only what they will get but how the community will benefit
>>> as a whole by participating. Ideally, each entity gets something they
>>> desperately need.*
>>>
>>> *9. Must show immediate benefit to individuals and institutions while
>>> working toward larger long-term benefits.*
>>>
>>> *10. Must make it a meaningful infinite game. The network must measure
>>> and reward individual and network progress toward vision with intrinsic
>>> rewards making everyone feel a part of a larger story of ongoing success
>>> with no limit on the rewards.*
>>>
>>> *11. Must make it a fun finite game. The network must create
>>> constructive competitions rewarding those who contribute the most to the
>>> network with time limits, scorekeeping, and extrinsic rewards (that
>>> hopefully feedback into the community, no ipod contests!).*
>>>
>>> *12. Must give back any profits to the community in a systematic,
>>> predictable, and transparent manner. The recipients of donations must be
>>> democratically determined by a disinterested third party (i.e.community
>>> foundation or community development corporation) or by members.*
>>>
>>> *13. Must give every member a chance to become a leader, steward or
>>> evangelists for the network and systematically cultivate leadership so there
>>> is a stable pipeline of talent. Then connect the leaders.*
>>>
>>> *14. The progress of the network must be reported on regularly to create
>>> a positive feedback loop. News flow must emphasize success stories, report
>>> on progress toward vision, profile network role models, how tos, report on
>>> network assets, and demonstrate the power of cooperation.*
>>>
>>> *15. The service must shape a socially constructive identity for users
>>> to dialog with. Users must be given a role to play out in a story told by
>>> the interplay between system and user. The system must activate the heroic
>>> archetype in users.*
>>>
>>> *16. The brand of the network must be a user-supported call to action.
>>> The brand must be inclusive, co-created, and experiential. The brand must
>>> have a civic architecture.*
>>>
>>> *17. Must have a charter detailing the norms of the network, norms which
>>> help ensure fidelity to the purpose of the network.*
>>>
>>> *18. Real, open, and owned identity. The network must incorporate trust
>>> systems that verify identity. Must support open ID (portable profiles).
>>> Users’ personal and usage data must be controlled by users. Only users can
>>> determine the privacy policy.*
>>>
>>> *19. Users rule, literally. The network must be user owned, managed, and
>>> governed by users for the benefit of users in a completely transparent
>>> manner.*
>>>
>>> *20. Quality over quantity. The goal of the network is to cultivate
>>> leadership in members, not just get members at any cost. While consumer
>>> culture creates consumers, this system creates citizens. The way to create
>>> citizens is to create quality leadership development experiences,
>>> experiences that are life-changing. For instance, the opportunity to
>>> co-manage a babysitting coop organized online could be a life-transforming
>>> leadership development experience.”*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 1:53 AM, Alex Rollin <alex.rollin at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I spent some time in China...I can see where this person is going with
>>>> the Civic Network.  Can you pass along the "20 qualities of a civic
>>>> network?'  I'd like to see that.
>>>>
>>>> I am working on a set of documents for supporting highly open
>>>> non-privateering cooperatives.  I'm also putting heavy emphasis on 'civic'
>>>> preservation of capital operating assets, ie 500 year horizon.  I'm
>>>> reorganizing the p2p wiki pages now to support an interlocking system of
>>>> small cooperatives functioning to out-coordinate local private enterprise.
>>>>  I am making these notes and linking pages to
>>>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Cooperative_Ecology_Project.  There's plenty
>>>> of room for others to help in the endeavor.
>>>>
>>>> Are you the person behind the accounting system on the babysitting site?
>>>>  I've been rolling around a few ideas for custom solutions to other niches
>>>> where coordination is outsourced to for-profit companies, but where the work
>>>> itself is basically simple accounting and compliance related tasks.  I've
>>>> not had yet enough time to put together a perfect storm assay of all the
>>>> qualities that will make these 'edge' opportunities easily identifiable, but
>>>> they certainly exist, and coops with not-for-loss perspectives will have the
>>>> best chance of building trust with 'markets' where the choice between one
>>>> offering and another is rarely about money.
>>>>
>>>> A
>>>> http://alexrollin.com/
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Gary Myers <garymyers222 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  See below...thanks for your help.  What more can we do to get more
>>>>> momentum on these tompics?
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>>>> *From:* Gary Myers <garymyers222 at yahoo.com>
>>>>> *To:* Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>; Samuel Rose <
>>>>> samuel.rose at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Sun, May 30, 2010 11:21:55 AM
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: babysitting coop as civic network
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thank you for your interest babysittingcoop.com as an example of a
>>>>> civic network enhanced by a money-free computer assisted barter system.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have attached a sample thesis I just mailed to a grad student in
>>>>> China. I am looking for help!
>>>>>
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>>>>> *To:* Peer-To-Peer Research List <p2presearch at listcultures.org>
>>>>> *Cc:* Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com>; garymyers222 at yahoo.com
>>>>> *Sent:* Sun, May 30, 2010 9:41:20 AM
>>>>> *Subject:* babysitting coop request
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> comment via
>>>>>
>>>>>   *Gary Myers*
>>>>> babysittingcoop.com
>>>>> garymyers222 at yahoo.com
>>>>> 67.185.50.144<http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/wp-admin/edit-comments.php?s=67.185.50.144&mode=detail>
>>>>> Submitted on 2010/05/29 at 5:36pm<http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-twenty-rules-we-need-for-open-civic-networks/2010/05/28/comment-page-1#comment-429532>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been looking for this kind of guideline for building a
>>>>> community. I invite you to help me build your vision with all the members of
>>>>> babysittingcoop.com
>>>>>
>>>>> These moms are re-inventing the idea of neighborhood. It is really
>>>>> amazing to see the strength of the support for each other that grows once
>>>>> the co-op gets started…the makings of a good masters thesis…
>>>>>
>>>>> I am looking for anyone that wants to make a small bit of history in
>>>>> building a community like envisioned in this article.
>>>>>
>>>>> In another application of the twenty rules, the BP spill site has
>>>>> 96,000 technical suggestions sent in. A good civic community could self
>>>>> organize and allow people to step into a variety of roles needed to review
>>>>> filter and screen this massive number of suggestions. Who knows a very good
>>>>> idea may be buried in those 96,000 emails.
>>>>>
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