[p2p-research] Trust Relationships in P2P Networks
Alex Rollin
alex.rollin at gmail.com
Thu Jul 29 16:52:24 CEST 2010
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Patrick Anderson <agnucius at gmail.com>wrote:
> Alex Rollin wrote:
>
> > I wondered if others would agree that
> > bilateral and multilateral trust can
> > occur in a P2P Network and that this
> > would by definition form a Commons
> > when the trust is multilateral.
>
> Even though the word "multilateral" might
> be interpreted as either of: one-to-many,
> many-to-one or many-to-many, it made
> me think more about "multi-owner", or what
> I've been thinking of as "P2P Clustering"
> and how many facets of an economy are
> out of reach until a sort of "Critical Mass"
> is reached.
>
In the case of a network it would be all of those, for a given currency.
The ability to take the note/agreement to any other node and have it
exchanged for something else.
>
> So we 'trust' banks and corporations and
> governments, even when they treat us
> badly, because ... well for many reasons
> that I will try to enumerate in another post.
>
> Yes, for another thread. How to build trust in a resource based economy,
for example.
>
> On a somewhat unrelated note:
> > danny jp wrote:
> >> the reason we use public debt as outside money
> >> is that it is easier to trust taxpayers to meet future
> >> commitments (since they can be compelled to pay)
> >> than it is a given private bank.
>
> This (probably accidentally) implies we would not trust
> "outside money" unless it were debt-based.
>
> I claim the trust comes from the clustering alone which in
> turn grants the "right by might" authority to enforce that
> social-contract.
>
I agree with you.
>
> This will work for most any type of money - whether it is
> based on debt, is simply fiat, is backed by precious metals,
> is backed by commodities, or (my preference) is backed by
> a combination of the Title over the "Physical Sources" plus a
> legally-binding "Labor Bond" from a qualified worker or, (even
> better), from a group of skilled workers who "Commit to Apply
> the Skills" needed to produce some *future* good.
>
Yes, I agree. And maybe more. Looking at this now.
>
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