[p2p-research] newsweek on The Creativity Crisis

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 19 08:52:40 CEST 2010


daniel,

do you have any supporting data on the creativity crisis and its reasons?

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Michael Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>wrote:

>  Hi Michel,
>
> I haven't looked at the underlying studies here but the overall cause could
> be a decline in funding for education which of course hits the poor -- those
> without access to private schools or supplementary educational support the
> hardest.  As the numbers of children living in poverty increase (as they
> have fairly dramatically in the US under the current
> neo-liberal/"capitalist" regime) and with a decline in birth rates among the
> middle classes and up then this kind of decline (as with comparable declines
> in Maths for example) is the "statistical" if inevitable result.
>
> But as I said I haven't read the underling study and this isn't an area
> that I have any deep knowledge in.
>
> Best,
>
> Mike
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* p2presearch-bounces at listcultures.org [mailto:
> p2presearch-bounces at listcultures.org] *On Behalf Of *Michel Bauwens
> *Sent:* Monday, July 19, 2010 8:00 AM
> *To:* p2p research network
> *Subject:* Re: [p2p-research] newsweek on The Creativity Crisis
>
> Michael, and others,
>
> do you have any specific idea of why creativity started declining in the
> 90's, and not before?
>
> seems to me that it is too late to blame TV for this, and to early to blame
> the internet which only became in full usage in the late 90's
>
> changes in the school system?
>
> otherwise, of course, Ryan's comment that the death of creativity is "good
> news for socialism", is baffling,
>
> first, because as you correctly point out, it occurred in the era of
> neoliberal dominance, so following the policy prescriptions of the free
> market ideology, secondly, because historically, socialism has been about
> extending creativity for all .. while I think Stalinist systems were
> counter-creative because of their enforced collectivism under the umbrella
> of a bureaucratic state, the historical record of social-democracy in
> extending aphabetisation, schooling, and creative education for all, has no
> parallel ... it stands as a major achievement of humanity ...
>
> who could consider scandinavian states as non-creative? they have a very
> strong record of technological innovation, and unlike Silicon Valley, they
> do not achieve this by a brain drain from the rest of the world, but by
> internal dynamics,
>
> Michel
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Michael Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  Your "capitalist" crew (Bush and co.) have been running the show for the
>> last ten years, what are you complaining about. You are getting what you are
>> (not) paying for...
>>
>> M
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* p2presearch-bounces at listcultures.org [mailto:
>> p2presearch-bounces at listcultures.org] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Lanham
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:08 PM
>> *To:* p2p research network
>> *Subject:* Re: [p2p-research] newsweek on The Creativity Crisis
>>
>> Couldn't agree more with the article...we've seen it too.  Good news for
>> socialism.  Not very good news for humanity.
>>
>> R.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> http://www.newsweek.com/2010/07/10/the-creativity-crisis.html
>>>
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