[p2p-research] Non-scarce energy production: I need your help
magius
gmagius at gmail.com
Wed Jul 14 08:32:57 CEST 2010
2010/7/14 Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>:
> Hi Marco,
>
> without being able to judge on the feasibility of your project (I'm rather
> sceptic of free energy projects and limit my faith to renewables, but I may
> have misunderstood the point about non-scarce energy supply),
The Kitegen project has nothing to do with "free energy" projects as
intended somewhere. Basicly the system works using kites to capture
high altitude winds' energy and transform it in electricity. It's a
project working on strong scientific assumptions developped in
collaboration with Politecnico di Torino, an high accademic italian
center and also funded by European Community (the vessels' branch). A
similar system abroad is funded by Google. It's a "real" non-scarce
energy supply, cause the high altitude winds could provide energy for
about 2,000 TeraWatt when actual need of all mankind is about 14
TeraWatt!
The Kitegen project could be one of many similar projects you'll find
worldwide. The strong diversity is their inventors approach. The
Kitegen is intended as a possibile tool to give universal distributed
access to electricity and, through it, to democracy. In that article
of Kitegen english website is better explained the vision:
http://www.kitegen.com/en/
> and witout the technical skills to help you, I'm cc'ing a few people who I think are
> more familiar with patent commons ...
>
> Don't hesitate to write them separately with more details on your project,
> they may want to have a shot at giving you some suggestions ..
>
> You may also want to check out the Open Knowledge Foundation,
Thanks a lot for your help, Michael. I hope someone could be
interested in this project.
Marco Giustini
> Michel
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:18 AM, magius <gmagius at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> In Italy I'm involved as supporter in a project related to not-scarce
>> renewable energy production. This project is called (Kitegen
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitegen). Actually we're trying with lots
>> of difficulties to start the first onsite Kitegen (Kitegen Stem) in
>> the northern Italy.
>>
>> But the reason why I'm writing here is not technical.
>>
>> The tecnology behind Kitegen is worldwide patented and he the
>> inventor, Mr. Ippolito, refused to sell patents to energy
>> multinationals, because he believes that Kitegen could be a tool to
>> produce not-scarce energy to free people.
>>
>> He's aware of attempts to extend the free-software paradigm in the
>> real world and he could be interested to eventually give his patents
>> to a collective entity (i.e. a no-profit foundation), if it will work
>> to spread widely his technology, balancing profit with commons'
>> interest.
>>
>> We created in Italy a public company to support the project that
>> collected from people 1 million euro, but is not enough. We need
>> more.
>>
>> We wish to build something really new, a free (free as in free beer!)
>> enterprise, commons-based, working on crowdsourcing.
>>
>> Could you help us to implement a model like this?
>>
>> Marco "magius" Giustini
>>
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