[p2p-research] What comes next?

[Reid Cornwell]

I am having a hard time understanding how capitalism and feudalism form the
dichotomy.

 

Reid

 

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[mailto:p2presearch-bounces at listcultures.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Lanham
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Subject: Re: [p2p-research] What comes next?

 

Of course we can go back to feaudalism and some will survive and carry on.
The question is, can something produce value at the level of capitalism in a
form that people rationally accept as desireable.  I doub that can be the
case.  There is no evidence anything else begins to work as well as
capitalism.

 

R.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Alex Rollin <alex.rollin at gmail.com> wrote:

Can I get an Amen!


On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> great exactly my point!
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Joss Winn <joss at josswinn.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 13/07/10 14:14, Michel Bauwens wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > for example, as ostrom shows, you can have fisheries that are owned by
a
>> > community, yet allow individual fishing rights and trading of the fish,
>> > provided the stock is not depleted.
>> >
>> > I do believe then, that a commons approach should not be wedded to a
>> > single proposed mode of allocation, but can be compatible with the
>> > largest possible human freedom, such as the freedom to trade and to
>> > market,
>>
>> It is worth reminding ourselves that commerce can, did and does exist
>> without capitalism, as is discussed very well in this article and
>> related book:
>>
>> http://www.monthlyreview.org/798wood.htm
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Origin-Capitalism-Longer-View/dp/1859843921/
>>
>> >
>> > why not call it capitalism, well in my case, because of the infinite
>> > growth argument, but I'm actually perfectly happy with green
capitalism,
>> > natural capitalism, and other similar movements,
>> >
>> > when you look at them closely, they are really about the freedom to
>> > trade, not about infinite growth, hence they are market approaches but
>> > prefer to use the term capitalism for cultural and political reasons,
>> > because it is associated with dynamic enterpreneurship etc..
>> >
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