[p2p-research] recommended video by zizek

[Daniel Araya]

I will maintain the romantic fiction that communism remains to be fully actualized somewhere somehow in spite of half a century of failed attempts across the planet if you'd like Michel ;)

(I just prefer science fiction to romantic fiction myself. Never been a fan of Rousseau...)

D

Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:50:14 +0700
From: michelsub2004 at gmail.com
To: p2presearch at listcultures.org
Subject: Re: [p2p-research] recommended video by zizek

hi daniel,
 
let's not have this discussion stalinist totalitarianism = communism, you should know better ... I'm assuming that your studies did include a minimum of political theory ?
 
your example is about just the opposite of what callinicos, himself a trotskyist, would mean under communism ..
 
Michel
 


 
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Daniel Araya <levelsixmedia at hotmail.com> wrote:


It strikes me as funny that Callinicos seeks the museum of Capitalism in a Communist era when it would seem to work the other way: Take a trip to Burma or Cuba or North Korea and you find the living museums of communism in the era of global capitalism...


'So often the vocabulary of the previous wave of emancipation is taken as
the standard for the next – as if all subsequent waves of emancipation
should carry the banner of Voltaire and Diderot, of Marx or Che Guevara.

As if secularism should be the touchstone for all newcomers to the
gate – emancipation frozen in time, gilded, decorated and elevated on
a pedestal, such as French laiciteì'.

D



Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:41:43 +0700
From: michelsub2004 at gmail.com
To: p2presearch at listcultures.org

CC: david at bollier.org; ronfeldt at mac.com; Silke.Helfrich at gmx.de

Subject: [p2p-research] recommended video by zizek 





http://versouk.wordpress.com/2010/07/07/idea-of-communism-callinicos-zizek-holloway-at-marxism/

 
this video is really worth viewing and listening to, in order to have an idea of left thinking today ...
 
alex callinicos presents the more traditional view, but zizek really rocks here, and if his nervous mannerisms irk you, just close your eyes
 
both speakers confront the idea of the commons, talk about recent events in China, and much more,
 
didn't get myself yet to the third speaker, john holloway ..
 
Michel
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