[p2p-research] The problems of debt

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

perhaps someone can translate what I m saying below,
in more simple words,
as I tend to see it visually :

i feel such logic can be turned upside down :

if a persons labour is not demanded:

in a system enabling anyone to create requests,
a person can suggest to such system, through requests, what it requires to
support a certain project.

it can also suggest projects to the system, and define requests to support
such project.

support to projects are not dependent on access to a centralized
banking credit/debt system, in itself too often dependent on profitability
through accumulation of other peoples debt units,

but support to projects may be defined by the emergent individual choices
for support of participants,

choices which, as I imagine, can be based on each participants understanding
of interdependencies of all requests, projects and people.

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A system that does not rest on coercive power through artificial scarcity
and hoarding of debt units,

but that is based on incentives coming from an understanding of our mutual
empowerment and interdependence,
our facilitated access to such interdependence through participation,
and resolutions of issues through active participation and initiative
taking.

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furthermore,
without trying to define what is socialist or not,

in a system of donations based on a visualization of interdependencies,
each network could choose what its priorities are,
based on emergence of individual choices.

Networks can create alliances, individuals can break off certain
interdependency networks,
and eventually port their data into other networks,

or be in several networks at once.

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Free riders are the long standing issue of all socialist systems.  People
> fail to be productive in a way that the world wants.  Therefore they consume
> without creating value.  Work isn't work unless someone wants the output.  I
> know that comes as news to some, but sadly, it is a universal truth.  If a
> person's labour is not demanded, they are in fact consuming...not working.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 12:17 PM, j.martin.pedersen <
> m.pedersen at lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 11/07/10 17:50, Ryan Lanham wrote:
>> > If I could find a world where people are responsive to demand, but
>> committed
>> > to share, I'd be very happy.  On the one hand I find capitalists who
>> espouse
>> > selfishness.  On the other, I find socialists who are usually free
>> riders.
>>
>> Free riders?
>>
>> There is just no end to this straw man "argumentation" - constructing
>> Lanhamian "socialism" in such a manner that seems to serve no other end
>> than to establish an idiosyncratic position.......
>>
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