[p2p-research] The problems of debt

[Dante-Gabryell Monson]

post scriptum : the risk when everything is transparent, is to have strong
social control.

To avoid it, I imagine eventually participating in multiple networks, and
multiple relational dynamics ( "diversifying" assets ) ,

eventually also using certain networks using a system of keys, such as in (
as I understand it ) th F2F tool set up by Robin Upton

http://www.altruists.org/projects/ge/ff/

<http://www.altruists.org/projects/ge/ff/>Hence, there are various potential
approaches for avoiding too much dependency on one particular "system" , and
various options for choosing "priorities" of resource allocation, and
 resolving concurrency issues.

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.monson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Would you/one still donate to free riders , in a system where you can
> visualize free riders based on contributions that can be accredited by
> receiving and donating ends, when your objective is to enable intentional
> interdependency ?
>
> The old Debt to intention ( its name might sound misleading )
> "brainstorming" I was thinking about some time ago:
>
> http://cashwiki.org/en/Debt_to_Intention
>
> <http://cashwiki.org/en/Debt_to_Intention>an "update"
>
> http://cashwiki.org/en/A_Financial_Programming_Language
>
> <http://cashwiki.org/en/A_Financial_Programming_Language>some list where I
> tend to send some related conversations :
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/econowmix
>
> I realize these are potential architectures for "languages" for a "self
> defining network of operating systems",
> and realize that the people that I know that seem to be closest to such
> understanding are Sam Rose and some other people he works with via Forward
> Foundation,
>
> and then some other people such as Art Brock and co , revolving around
> Metacurrency ( although I do not believe that all people relating themselves
> to metacurrency share the same kind of understanding )
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> If I could find a world where people are responsive to demand, but
>> committed to share, I'd be very happy.  On the one hand I find capitalists
>> who espouse selfishness.  On the other, I find socialists who are usually
>> free riders.  Utopian artisan colonies probably have come closest.
>> Universities are vaguely workable...though, of late, free riding has become
>> dominant.  As soon as I hear that people don't concern themselves with value
>> creation, I start walking for the door.  If someone doesn't want to pay or
>> trade for it, it wasn't useful(.)  Philanthropy is of course paying for
>> something that benefits others.
>>
>> R.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
>> dante.monson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> That makes sense, as an operating system is, a software machine.
>>>>
>>>
>>> exactly. I was meant to start my reply with "yes Ryan! a machine! :)"
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see where you are headed on open versus coercive...it is an
>>>> interesting line.  Enabling is the key.  The idea must be that people
>>>> receive more value by sharing than not.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The further I go, the more I realize the only possible system (not the
>>>> one most desired) is markets.  Whether markets can function in a
>>>> post-capitalism world (a world without debt driven growth) is indeed an
>>>> interesting question.
>>>>
>>>
>>> YES ! I can agree, Absolutely !
>>>
>>> Including...
>>> A MARKET MADE OUT OF DONATIONS :))) ... ( where we choose which
>>> interdependencies to participate in or not - based on transparency )
>>>
>>> facilitating a transfer of resources into "communal sharing" relational
>>> dynamics.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ryan Lanham
>> rlanham1963 at gmail.com
>> Facebook: Ryan_Lanham
>> P.O. Box 633
>> Grand Cayman, KY1-1303
>> Cayman Islands
>> (345) 916-1712
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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