[p2p-research] The link between poverty, (de)centralisation and (non)connectivity

[Alex Rollin]

Or perhaps just not having wants?  I don't mean that as definitively
as it sounds, but, for example, we learn about new things, new
developments, from neighbors.  We learn about the insufficiency of
current solutions through comparison, sometimes.

A

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't know,
>
> I'm guessing he is using it in a very loose way, as not having things, which
> is indeed presumably the beginning state of mankind ... but again, these
> tribal societies were also the decentralized one .... It seems to me though
> that in the current conjuncture, distribution (in the p2p sense) would be a
> very important step to restore local dynamism and autonomy.
>
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > as someone alerted me in facebook, poverty is relative to wants and
>> > needs, so the statement, we all started from poverty, is problematic (read
>> > the original affluent society by marshall sahlins)
>> >
>> > also contradictory is that, if we all started everywhere in poverty, it
>> > was in fact for most of the time a decentralized poverty, so that seems
>> > contradictory,
>> >
>> > nevertheless, at this historical conjuncture, I do agree that this is
>> > precisely what we need to focus on, without of course, making it a fetish,
>> >
>> > Michel
>> >
>>
>> I wonder what Quadir means by: "Poverty is the natural beginning state
>> of all societies, east or west."
>>
>> In general I can agree with the criticism that it is not a "natural
>> beginning state". Yet, I wonder where this is sourced from. It would
>> be good to see it in context to be sure this is what Quadir actually
>> meant.
>>
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