[p2p-research] Inaugural Open Infrastructures Conference

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Sun Jan 31 04:36:16 CET 2010 

i share those priorities, but these are a lot of things to cover, and the
danger is to lose focus. WHile our first meeting was successfull in many,
primarily social ways, the original intent of having a common priority base
for technical development was completely lost.

 Assuming we have 2 days (?), we could combine say:

1) a generalist start (theory, concepts, movements)

2) a strategic focus (say, bridging open and coop worlds)

3) a technical focus (say, particular infrastructrures)

4) a funding focus



In this way, the 3 specialized needs would be covered, but in a overall
integral environment and having a multi-year focus would allow us to sweep
the terrain in a consistent manner

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Suresh Fernando <
suresh at radical-inclusion.com> wrote:

>  Hey Folks,
>
> The idea was to get the conversation started to pull the various themes
> that are converging together. To be both 'sensitive to the zeitgeist', as
> well as strategically proactive in what we try to pull together.
>
> At least from my perspective there is the feel that we are bridging
> paradigms, and that this is what is necessary. At OK, there is a convergence
> of:
>
>    - The culture of open collaboration that is mostly focused on *patterns
>    of interaction*: operating completely transparently and maximally
>    inclusive
>    - The culture of the Commons, which is more focused on *how to manage
>    what we create together;*
>    - P2P and mainstream culture: Most of those that are a part of this
>    'movement' stand in opposition to standard 'neo-liberal' principles and
>    hence reject most of what is represented by traditional corporations,
>    funders etc. I believe that this chasm must be bridged both philosophically
>    and practically
>    - Institutional Frameworks: I am interested in developing a process
>    that drives dialogue between the social ventures, social venture funding
>    sources, academic institutions, mainstream corporations, the public sector
>    etc.
>
> *We need to develop the nexus and to be situated in it if we want to bring
> about the change in the world we desire.*
>
> Hence, what I would like to see if an event that brings all of this
> together.
>
> From an organizational perspective, I cannot lead this initiative, but can
> be a core part of the organizing team. As such I can help create content for
> the formulation of grants etc.
>
> We would need to formulate an organizing committee to move this forward.
>
> Those that are interested should let us all know.
>
>
> Suresh
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 5:21 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> we could of course theme it around coops for next year, and focus on the
>> interface between shared design infrastructures and socially equitable
>> corporate formats, such as coops, the solidarity economy, social economy
>> etc..
>>
>> and we could return to open manufacturing infrastructures proper, the next
>> time,
>>
>> I think we need to be sensitive to the Zeitgeist and strategic priorities
>> and certainly linking the open movement with the social economy is a
>> strategic priority ...
>>
>> Michel
>>
>>   On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Phoebe <pvm.doc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Suresh,
>>>
>>> I need to have another conversation with Josef about what I'm suggesting
>>> below as it's an initiative to get P2P and the Cooperatives movement in the
>>> same room (metaphorically and literally), and in this case, putting on a
>>> relevant screening during Cooperatives Fortnightly. Your suggestion here
>>> also looks interesting.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure about* free *space in Manchester of Salford... in the case
>>> the Film Cooperative hold monthly screenings in a really great place called
>>> Kings Arms, which we in fact rent for 100 british pounds per screening!...
>>>
>>> The Cooperative is run by members in a not-for-profit way, but we
>>> generate an income by  charging people to come to see the films and to see
>>> the after-film speaker. That's how we fund it. We also pay for the
>>> distribution rights for the films. But because we're a co-op and this tried
>>> and tested 'business model' is run by members, we can make our own decisions
>>> re-how we do things, because we fund ourselves... we are usually down to the
>>> last 5 pounds, but it's a very popular event and we fill the room to
>>> over-capacity...
>>>
>>> I think the idea is great, and in terms of getting space, I can look
>>> around Manchester, we used to have something called The Basement which
>>> actually at some point burned down which is a real shame!.... Are you also
>>> going to be putting in grant applications to run this?
>>>
>>> Smiles, Phoebe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 January 2010 02:14, Suresh Fernando <suresh at radical-inclusion.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Phoebe,
>>>>
>>>> Sam, Michel and I have had some very preliminary discussion about having
>>>> an annual (or semi-annual) Open Infrastructure Event in conjunction with the
>>>> Open Infrastructures Report that has been discussed by us.
>>>>
>>>> It would be cool to do something with you and your group again as we all
>>>> had a great time in November!
>>>>
>>>> Doing something in conjunction with the Film Cooperative is certainly a
>>>> possibility that would add an interesting element to the mix.
>>>>
>>>> Would you be able to provide free space at Salford and help with
>>>> logistics and coordination from that end?
>>>>
>>>> If we are going to do this again, I think that the plan should also be
>>>> to take things up a level. Do a 2-day event that also has a virtual
>>>> component.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to see:
>>>>
>>>>    - Theme: something like: *'Developing Open Models for Positive
>>>>    Social Change'*
>>>>    - Sector Focus: Open Manufacturing
>>>>    - Models: Commons models, other innovations
>>>>    - Technology Infrastructure: discussion of infrastructure that
>>>>    supports open environments
>>>>    - Funding and Capacity Building Strategies: we could use this as an
>>>>    opportunity to invite some of the social venture funders to the party!
>>>>
>>>> What do all of you think?
>>>>
>>>> Suresh
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Phoebe <pvm.doc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone, thanks for the kick up the ehem to get this emai out
>>>>> Suresh, I've been meaning to for a few days:
>>>>>
>>>>> Giles Simon (who works for Cooperatives UK and with Ed Mayo) and I make
>>>>> up a sort of steering group for the Manchester Film Cooperative with a group
>>>>> of 5 or 6 others, and I brought this up at our last organisation meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are happy to do a screening on open source related stuff, during
>>>>> Cooperatives fortnightly. Thus bringing the open source and cooperatives
>>>>> movements into one room, which is the King's Arms in Salford, a great little
>>>>> venue five minutes from Manchester city centre.
>>>>>
>>>>>  In fact the theme for the next season which will have been launched by
>>>>> then, is Movement so fits right in I'd say... Our theme right now is Work
>>>>> and we're showing LVTrier's The Boss of It All next month (Paul A Taylor
>>>>> will be our speaker for this film, he and I have written a paper looking at
>>>>> open source and work), just showed Roger and Me last week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway I've run this past Josef but not in any great detail so let's
>>>>> talk...
>>>>>
>>>>> The film cooperative is also interested in Vicky's project this summer,
>>>>> we are talking about showing a film on the side of a bus, but we need to
>>>>> speak to the ArcSpace lot about that,
>>>>>
>>>>> Phoebe
>>>>>
>>>>>   On 29 January 2010 05:24, Suresh Fernando <
>>>>> suresh at radical-inclusion.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Josef - any news on this? Due to the work OpenKollab is doing in the
>>>>>> Open Manufacturing arena this is something we'd like to see move forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Josef Davies-Coates <
>>>>>> josef at uniteddiversity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm thinking of co-ordinating the production of 3 events during
>>>>>>> Cooperative Fortnight June 19th - July 3rd 2010 about the potential
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> uniting the Open Source and Co-op movements.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The rough idea for the 3 events is:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) presenting the amazing achievements of open source software/
>>>>>>> hardware to people in the co-op movement
>>>>>>> 2) presenting the amazing achievemenets of the co-op movement to
>>>>>>> people in the open source world
>>>>>>> 3) a big open space event that bring everyone together to try and
>>>>>>> answer a question like "how can the open source and co-operative
>>>>>>> movements help each other to thrive (in the face of climate, energy
>>>>>>> and economic uncertainty)?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The events would (most likely) take place in Manchester and London.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who would like to get involved/ present/ fund/ help make it happen?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A bit of background...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed Mayo, who headed up the new economics foundation (nef) when I
>>>>>>> worked there for a while has recently taken on a job heading up
>>>>>>> Co-opsUK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In his first speech
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.cooperatives-uk.coop/live/images/cme_resources/Public/speeches/a_dog_helps_dog_world.pdf
>>>>>>> he state that one of the central economic challenges is to:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "6. to take advantage of the digital economy, we can embrace the
>>>>>>> creative commons of co-operation online, from open source to
>>>>>>> platforms
>>>>>>> for user generated content, rather than try to shore up traditional
>>>>>>> private business. If there can be increasing as well as diminishing
>>>>>>> returns to investment in a knowledge economy, then economic policy
>>>>>>> should economic sharing and limit private monopolies, rather than
>>>>>>> increasing the protectionism of intelletual property as the UK and EU
>>>>>>> has done."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I met with Ed shortly after he started his new job and we discussed
>>>>>>> some of the amazing potential for Co-operative and Open Source
>>>>>>> movements to well, cooperate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example, imagine what could happen if the Mondragon Assembly
>>>>>>> factory factory (i.e. they make things that makes things)
>>>>>>> http://www.mondragon-assembly.com/ (itself part of a much larger
>>>>>>> co-op
>>>>>>> group) co-operated with people on the Open Manufacturing list
>>>>>>> http://openmanufacturing.org/ and amazing projects like Open Source
>>>>>>> Ecology http://openfarmtech.org !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please let me know ASAP if you can help make this happen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josef.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Josef Davies-Coates
>>>>>>> 07974 88 88 95
>>>>>>> http://uniteddiversity.com
>>>>>>> Together We Have Everything
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Suresh Fernando
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>>>>>> WEBSITE: http://openkollab.com
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  --
>>>>> Employment profile: http://www.espach.salford.ac.uk/page/Phoebe_Moore
>>>>>
>>>>> JCEPS--my recent article: UK Education, Employability and Everyday Life
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.jceps.com/index.php?pageID=article&articleID=151
>>>>>
>>>>> Media Ecologies workshop, Nov 2009, Manchester
>>>>> http://www.espach.salford.ac.uk/sssi/p2p/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Manchester Film Cooperative: http://www.manchesterfilm.coop/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Suresh Fernando
>>>> WEBSITE: http://radical-inclusion.com
>>>> WEBSITE: http://openkollab.com
>>>> FAN PAGE: http://www.facebook.com/openkollab.
>>>> BLOG: http://sureshfernando.wordpress.com
>>>> TWITTER: http://twitter.com/sureshf
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>>>> 604-889-8167
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Employment profile: http://www.espach.salford.ac.uk/page/Phoebe_Moore
>>>
>>> JCEPS--my recent article: UK Education, Employability and Everyday Life
>>> http://www.jceps.com/index.php?pageID=article&articleID=151
>>>
>>> Media Ecologies workshop, Nov 2009, Manchester
>>> http://www.espach.salford.ac.uk/sssi/p2p/index.html
>>>
>>> Manchester Film Cooperative: http://www.manchesterfilm.coop/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
> --
> Suresh Fernando
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