[p2p-research] Fwd: [fcforum] Fw: iPad DRM is a dangerous step backward. Sign the petition!

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Sun Jan 31 04:25:22 CET 2010


Hi Kevin,

you are making 2 references here that would be interesting,

- you mention Eric REasons, can you recall the URL?

- you mention techdirt's attention to alternative open business models,
would it be possible to reference a few? I think these alternatives are
still insufficiently known, apart from the open source models in software
...

If you have some time for this, that would be an excellent overview article,
but thanks for already sending a few references,

Michel




On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Kevin Carson <
free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 1/29/10, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Truth
> > is, producers of content need a model for selling stuff.  iPod Touch
> saved
> > the music industry, and that isn't hyperbole.  That may not be great for
> > college kids who want free access to songs, but it has generated billions
> > for artists are jobs all over the world from Africa to Hollywood.
>
> There's a difference between saving the "music industry" and paying
> actual content creators.  Every day Techdirt has material on how
> content creators have followed business models that don't require
> artificial scarcity rents on proprietary content.
>
> And as I understand it, the whole postscarcity/abundance movement is
> about eliminating artificial scarcity, and the portion of the
> monetized GDP and commodity price that result from artificial
> scarcity.  The implosion of the part of commodity price that results
> from rents on artificial property reduces the number of hours we have
> to work to obtain stuff that was formerly proprietary.  Reduced prices
> in every aspect of life reduce the hours we have to work to live.
>
> As Chris Anderson described it, Encarta badly hurt the hard copy
> encyclopedia industry.  And then Wikipedia hurt it far more--along
> with also destroying Encarta as a proprietary alternative to the
> traditional encyclopedia.  This eliminated many, many billions of
> dollars of previously monetized value that previously supported some
> content generators.  If Steve Jobs figured out some way to "save the
> encyclopedia industry" against the Wikiipedia threat, would you
> consider that a good thing?  How about if somebody had managed to save
> the buggy whip makers against Henry Ford?  If somebody comes up with a
> Star Trek replicator that can produce any food or consumer good at
> zero marginal cost, will it be a good thing if somebody figures out a
> way to "save the food/clothing/appliance industries" by enabling
> manufacturers to keep charging for them?
>
> That's what Eric Reasons was arguing a few months back on the
> implosion of artificial scarcity rents.
>
> People
> > who don't believe in intellectual property had a bad day.  That's true.
>  To
> > my mind, P2P and the open movement have never been about doing away with
> > IP...in fact, just the opposite.  It is about free/open being a
> competitive
> > model where post-scarcity is more compelling both politically and
> > economically than market restrictions.
>
> Speaking for myself, P2P is very much about opposition to
> "intellectual property."  I was drawn to the open movement for the
> same reason people who considered slavery illegitimate were drawn to
> the abolitionist movement.  I think Stallman also considers IP
> illegitimate in principle.
>
> For me, open-source is a way of recreating, within the belly of the
> beast, the state of affairs that would exist if copyrights and patents
> didn't exist at all.
>
> And again, as I understand it the open movement is about the ultimate
> value of eliminating artificial scarcity.  So while some accommodation
> to IP as an interim measure may be consistent with this, it is still
> in some way a compromise of the fundamental culture of the movement.
>
> > It isn't a great day for the free/open movement, but it is a great day
> for
> > societies.  Sadly, many will not be able to see past their own view of
> the
> > politics of that statement.  Capitalism simply won again.  I think that
> is a
> > good thing.  If free/open wants to compete for the first place in
> society,
> > it needs to deliver top goods and services.  Here's to the guys who can
> > match Apple for 100 Euros and something I can tinker with, change and add
> > media that's either expensive or free.  I will never sign a petition
> against
> > massive technical improvements that are disruptive and consumer friendly.
>
> The problem is they're "competing" in an artificial ecosystem defined
> by "intellectual property."  Capitalism won because the playing field
> was tilted.  If I lived in Virginia in 1850, I wouldn't say that slave
> cotton plantations must be better than free ones because they
> outcompeted in the market.  I'd question the basic structural
> preconditions of the market.
>
> --
> Kevin Carson
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> http://mutualist.blogspot.com
> Studies in Mutualist Political Economy
> http://www.mutualist.org/id47.html
> Organization Theory:  A Libertarian Perspective
> http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2005/12/studies-in-anarchist-theory-of.html
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