[p2p-research] Fwd: [fcforum] Fw: iPad DRM is a dangerous step backward. Sign the petition!

Fri Jan 29 16:07:27 CET 2010

Apple and Google seem to be both viable but competing propositions on how
capitalist firms can integrate openness and participation ...

the apple ipod opened itself to the music of the whole world, despite its
DRM; the iphone created an applications revolution .. all the while
maintaining tight control over the end result ... as bad as apple may seem
from the side of 'total openness', compare it to the old style telco's and
how they controlled, and in fact made impossible, API's and profit sharing
...

but google is another type of success story, with much more openness, less
control.

My view is that Apple is a good model for short term success, and google for
long term success, but the danger being short term success can wipe out the
very possibility of long term success

the iphone is undoubtedly superior to the android, but long term the latter
may evolve to a much stronger ecology of products,

if it would be successfull, it would leave apple as a strong niche player,
what it always did with computers as well

I consider for-benefit based peer production good at some aspects, but not
as others, such as the last mile proposition for user/consumers, where
for-profit still excell ...

questions for me are: can the format of the latter change to take into
account social and environmental externalities; and, can communities and
for-benefit players maintain sufficient economy vis a vis their
collaborating enterpreneurial coalitions?

but p2p has never been about filesharing, I agree 100%, and it offers no
solutions to artists and creators, so it is as best an epiphenomema, a sign
of the pathology of the old system, rather than a mature model of the new,

Michel

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:

> It is an interesting argument.  I certain I disagree with it.
>
> I love my iPod Touch--it is the best technology I've ever used.  I add my
> own media to it, but I've spent a lot on media that I already owned.  Truth
> is, producers of content need a model for selling stuff.  iPod Touch saved
> the music industry, and that isn't hyperbole.  That may not be great for
> college kids who want free access to songs, but it has generated billions
> for artists are jobs all over the world from Africa to Hollywood.  People
> who don't believe in intellectual property had a bad day.  That's true.  To
> my mind, P2P and the open movement have never been about doing away
> with IP...in fact, just the opposite.  It is about free/open being a
> competitive model where post-scarcity is more compelling both politically
> and economically than market restrictions.
>
> What is scary about the iPad (horrible name) is that it is so vastly
> superior to any competition for a relatively low cost.  For 300 Euros, a
> person can have a Kindle, great web browser, a media base that can hold all
> sorts of stuff...(can external add on drives be far away?), and a superior
> media machine that threatens TVs, music sources, etc.  It is remarkable that
> one firm can produce technology so overwhelmingly superior to anyone else.
> It isn't close.  This thing is a generation beyond Sony, Nokia, IBM, Dell,
> etc.
>
> When I first read about it, I shrugged and thought...it's just a big
> Touch.  But it is far more and for not much more money.  This even threatens
> the OLPC movement.  It is highly disruptive...something I always think is
> great.  It will probably save the publishing industry with the
> Kindle...which is seems to destroy...you can get Kindle software for it for
> free...  In the US upper and upper middle classes, the Kindle is now
> everywhere...airports, etc. are full of them.  I know several college
> students who are using it in literature studies and in other related
> topics. The iPad disrupts all that.  It makes multimedia textbooks the new
> standard.
>
> It isn't a great day for the free/open movement, but it is a great day for
> societies.  Sadly, many will not be able to see past their own view of
> the politics of that statement.  Capitalism simply won again.  I think that
> is a good thing.  If free/open wants to compete for the first place in
> society, it needs to deliver top goods and services.  Here's to the guys who
> can match Apple for 100 Euros and something I can tinker with, change and
> add media that's either expensive or free.  I will never sign a
> petition against massive technical improvements that are disruptive and
> consumer friendly.  No one will buy it if it isn't consumer friendly.  I
> understand they had millions of inquiries the first day.  If I can afford
> one, I'll definitely put it on the wish list.
>
> The other interesting fact is that this will push Google to go more toward
> free/open.  Amazing that two companies that are less than 30 miles from each
> other are essential reshaping the who user experience of computers.
> Microsoft and Amazon are also 30 miles from each other.  One advantage
> capitalism has over P2P is the clustering of human talent.  P2P will
> inevitably move slower.  What is interesting about this thrust by Apple and
> Amazon is whether it is disrupting free/open as a business model.  Maybe
> this was the day P2P died.
>
> Ryan
>
>
>  On 1/29/10, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>> From: <csdva at wowm.org>
>> Date: Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:51 PM
>> Subject: [fcforum] Fw: iPad DRM is a dangerous step backward. Sign the
>> petition!
>> To: fcforum at list.fcforum.net
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>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> Dear supporter,
>>
>> Today, Apple launched a computer that will never belong to its owner.
>> Apple will use Digital Restrictions Management (DRM) to gain total veto
>> power over the applications you use and the media you can view.
>>
>> We've launched a petition calling out Apple's new product for what it is:
>> a frightening step backward for computing and for media distribution. Can
>> you read it, sign it, and share with friends?
>>
>> http://defectivebydesign.org/ipad
>>
>> Also, when you've signed, please take the time to share the petition on
>> sites like Identi.ca and Reddit:
>>
>> http://www.defectivebydesign.org/shareipad
>>
>> Defective by Design's John Sullivan is on the ground at the Apple event
>> with a group of protesters, letting the public and journalists know about
>> the "Restriction Zone" Apple is constructing around their products. We'll
>> be posting images from the event throughout the day, so sign the petition
>> and please check back frequently and help us circulate these images.
>>
>> http://defectivebydesign.org/ipad
>>
>> This summer we saw the dangers of DRM on ebook readers, when Amazon
>> deleted hundreds of copies of George Orwell's 1984 from readers' computers
>> while they slept. Applying this control to a general purpose computer
>> marketed especially for media distribution is a huge step backward for
>> computing, and a blow to the media revolution that happened when the web
>> let bloggers reach millions without asking for permission.
>>
>> DRM and forced updates will give Apple and their corporate partners the
>> power to disable features, restrict competition, censor news, and even
>> delete books, videos, or news stories from users' computers while they
>> sleep-- using the device's "always on" network connection.
>>
>> Apple can say they will not abuse this power, but their record of App
>> Store rejections gives us no reason to trust them. The Apple Tablet's
>> unprecedented use of DRM to control all capabilities of a general purpose
>> computer is a dangerous step backward for computing and for media
>> distribution; we demand that Apple remove DRM from the device.
>>
>> http://defectivebydesign.org/ipad
>>
>> Thank you for your support!
>>
>> Sincerely, Holmes Wilson, Matt Lee, Deborah Nicholson, Peter Brown and
>> John Sullivan -- the DRM Elimination Team
>>
>> P.S. If you haven't already, register your Defective by Design account:
>> http://defectivebydesign.org/user/register
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