[p2p-research] why I'm not responding to internet messages

carolina botero carobotero at gmail.com
Tue Jan 19 12:06:34 CET 2010


My best wishes for Michel´s recovery. I can not promise a weekly blog post
but I can promise one or 2 in the comming weeks... is someone going to
coordinate this volunteering (should I do it??) so that we can have a
calendar and do not overlap efforts? what do you think?
carolina

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>   3. Re: why I'm not responding to internet messages (Kevin Carson)
>   4. Asking Citizens What They Want Out Of Copyright Law       Is Really
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> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:05:02 -0500
> From: Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [p2p-research] why I'm not responding to internet
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> On 1/18/10, Kevin Carson <free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 1/17/10, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >  dear friends,
> > >
> > > if you are wondering why it is quiet on my part, I fell seriously ill,
> > and
> > > will go to the hospital for a diagnosis tomorrow. Right now opening up
> > the
> > > computer, reading, or even watching tv is too exhausting. I won't go to
> > the
> > > internet in the next few days, unless to communicate the diagnosis. I
> > won't
> > > read any messages of support for while, my wife's phone in thailand is
> > > 081/785.7291
> > >  (all my commitments are provisionally on hold)
> >
> > Best wishes for a successful diagnosis and treatment, Michel, and your
> > speedy recovery.
>
>
>
> Should anyone receive or have any information, I hope you will forward it
> here as much as privacy allows.
>
> Michel, get well soon!
>
> Ryan
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> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:16:08 +0700
> From: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [p2p-research] why I'm not responding to internet
>        messages
> To: p2p research network <p2presearch at listcultures.org>,        james
> burke
>        <lifesized at gmail.com>
> Cc: Darren Sharp <darren.sharp at collabforge.com>
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> Times have sure changed when we're discussing these things on a searchable
> mailing list <g>
>
> Thanks for the many wishes in facebook and via gmail, I'm not going to see
> any other mailbox for now.
>
> In short, it's a full blown prostate crisis (no outpout on both sides of
> the
> aisle <g>, and hence also no input); exhausting, cold fevers, pain etc... I
> feel somewhat better since yesterday, but very low energy level still,
> doing
> this internet stint is by itself exhausting.
>
> I'll have a biopsy on Monday, and a few days later the results. If it's not
> the feared thing, then hopefully I'll have an idea of the recovery period
> ... the thai doctor was very very old, in fact, the doctors in the hospital
> looked in noticeable worse health than the patients, on average <g>
>
> but in any case, this is a time for me to recalibrate my efforts in the
> future, and to live a life more in harmony with natural health ...
>
> This is a time to send material to James, especially from the 21st onwards,
>
> I'm wondering if we could not have a volunteer collective for the blog,
> with
> 7 people committing one article on a given day of the week; my focus,
> cannot
> for the moment be the monitoring of current events, I'll focus on going
> through the archives from some best of selections, but no promises for the
> moment,
>
> I would be a shame to see the current momentum die down completely
>
> Sorry I can't see all the answers in any regular way,
>
> Access to the blog is via James Burke,
>
> Michel
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 1/18/10, Kevin Carson <free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 1/17/10, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >  dear friends,
> >> >
> >> > if you are wondering why it is quiet on my part, I fell seriously ill,
> >> and
> >> > will go to the hospital for a diagnosis tomorrow. Right now opening up
> >> the
> >> > computer, reading, or even watching tv is too exhausting. I won't go
> to
> >> the
> >> > internet in the next few days, unless to communicate the diagnosis. I
> >> won't
> >> > read any messages of support for while, my wife's phone in thailand is
> >> > 081/785.7291
> >> >  (all my commitments are provisionally on hold)
> >>
> >> Best wishes for a successful diagnosis and treatment, Michel, and your
> >> speedy recovery.
> >
> >
> >
> > Should anyone receive or have any information, I hope you will forward it
> > here as much as privacy allows.
> >
> > Michel, get well soon!
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> >
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> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:25:40 -0600
> From: Kevin Carson <free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [p2p-research] why I'm not responding to internet
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> To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> Cc: p2p research network <p2presearch at listcultures.org>
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> On 1/18/10, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  In short, it's a full blown prostate crisis (no outpout on both sides of
> > the aisle <g>, and hence also no input); exhausting, cold fevers, pain
> > etc... I feel somewhat better since yesterday, but very low energy level
> > still, doing this internet stint is by itself exhausting.
> >
> > I'll have a biopsy on Monday, and a few days later the results. If it's
> not
> > the feared thing, then hopefully I'll have an idea of the recovery period
> > ... the thai doctor was very very old, in fact, the doctors in the
> hospital
> > looked in noticeable worse health than the patients, on average <g>
>
> Here's hoping you get good news soon.
>
> I can't promise a weekly article, but I'll keep an eye out for stuff
> I'm working on that's relevant to the blog and post it where gaps in
> the posting schedule indicate it will do the most good.  And I'll
> definitely get the stuff posted that I've promised in the past (like
> scaling the countereconomy, assorted crisis theories, and the Homebrew
> excerpts).
>
> Best,
> Kevin
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 08:21:55 +0000
> From: Kevin Carson <free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com>
> Subject: [p2p-research] Asking Citizens What They Want Out Of
>        Copyright Law   Is Really Just A 'Tactic...
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>  Sent to you by Kevin Carson via Google Reader: Asking Citizens What
> They Want Out Of Copyright Law Is Really Just A 'Tactic To Confuse'?
> via Techdirt by Mike Masnick on 1/18/10
> One of the more stunning realities that has become clear in watching
> the entertainment industry, as it responds to people who are actually
> impacted by ever more draconian copyright laws, is the fact that the
> industry doesn't view other positions as worth hearing at all. To the
> industry, copyright law has one purpose and one purpose only: to
> protect the big players in the content making business. Everyone else
> is secondary. Unfortunately, those big industry players have powerful
> lobbyists. That's why it was so nice to see Canada at least hold an
> open process to hear from the public. Of course, we were skeptical if
> those voices would really be heard, and stories about the industry
> itself stacking the deck at public gatherings did not bode well.
>
> Separately, with so much pressure coming from other countries, we
> wondered if Canada would be able to resist implementing ever more
> draconian copyright laws, which would be a serious drain on the
> Canadian economy. So far they have resisted, but the pressure from
> outside continues to be fierce. We recently noted that US lobbyists and
> lawyers were insisting that Canada needed to be dragged into the 21st
> century, and now European trade negotiators are pushing hard on Canada
> to change its copyright laws despite no actual evidence of any problem
> with existing laws.
>
> But what's most troubling of all is that these trade reps don't seem to
> care at all what Canadian citizens had to say. Despite receiving
> thousands of well-argued, well-thought-out statements concerning
> Canadian copyright law, EU trade negotiators are dismissing the whole
> process as "a tactic to confuse." To confuse who? About what? Holding
> an open discussion with citizens, rather than just backroom deals to
> protect a small group of companies? I'd argue that's the very opposite
> of a tactic to confuse, but rather it's a tactic to enlighten.
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