[p2p-research] 1992 versus 2010 -- Haiti

[Michel Bauwens]

I think you have this exactly right, if the corporate model fails, these
modalities will not disappear, but would be reconstituted!!

by the way Ryan, do you remember I asked you to finalize your commons ethics
principles, I'd like to publish them prominently in the commons section of
the wiki,

Michel

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 1/13/10, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> i think ryan is suggesting that it is contradictory that they have
>> undeniable value, yet make no profit ..
>
>
> That is what I meant, but I also meant that it is the peer to peer aspect
> where the value lies, not in the corporate component and yet people are
> still doing the projects...what is more, there are a whole raft of other
> similar sorts of no value proposition (in a corporate sense) projects not
> far behind.  The Kurzweil reader which I copied here is only one example.
> I've seen several others.
>
> I take this as evidence that profit is dying except for commodity
> monopolies.  More important than what is dying, it is the rise of something
> far more powerful.  My wife told me she turned off CNN (after I had gone to
> bed) because Facebook had far newer stuff and what CNN was showing she'd
> seen 2 hours earlier on Facebook.  That is extraordinary...and profound.
> Even if FB or Twitter went out of business, they'd now be reconstituted as
> co-ops almost certainly.  I think we often forget that the Internet and the
> standards body that made it were effectively co-ops.  People like my old
> acquaintance Scott Bradner at Harvard spent untold hours putting the details
> into those proposed standards.  It worked.  The same thing is now happening
> with information in general.
>
> I am not against profits.  But I am against profits for the sake of
> profits.  We simply don't understand the world yet where they don't exist in
> a dominant way.   It is coming fairly quickly, however.
>
> I talked to someone doing Zip cars by the way...said it is fantastic.
>
> Ryan
>
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