[p2p-research] Fwd: Open Source not anti-capitalist but a-capitalist

[Ryan Lanham]

For an American...this whole obsession with anti-capitalism or a-capitalism
is very old school socialist and off-putting. I think this stuff sells
really well amongst university elites in Europe.  In the US it just sounds
silly.

This may be a point of marketing.  The European green movement identifies
with 1968 and a hippie socialism that didn't take off.  Castells brilliantly
reflects that European ethos.  In America, it doesn't even get you a
third-rate newspaper's editorial page.  The stuff that is taken seriously in
Le Monde or even the Guardian almost daily is totally absurd in the NY Times
or even the SF Chronicle.

Mostly this leads to both sides thinking the other is naive and foolish.
The giant European intellectuals a la Foucault come to the US and get, at
best, a small academic cult following; whereas they are rock stars at home
who lead protests and who regularly are allocated huge ink space in leading
newspapers or TV shows.  Meanwhile, serious US thinkers (often in business
or nonprofits) are dismissed in Europe as commercial.

I think this dichotomy hurts the general movement (of P2P and others).  I
have proposed to people who have asked me for blog topics that reconciling
Europe to America is the great uncovered topic...but there are no takers.  I
think both hold each other too much in contempt for any real progress.

Just today I heard one child dis another with the taunt of "euro-fag..."
meaning someone who holds to naive and idealistic views.  The (predictable)
counter epithet was "fascist."  So it goes. Having spent an evening recently
with a British woman who regaled me with the idea that all the current great
writers of English are British and that only the British make "reasonable"
Hollywood films...I am perhaps a bit agitated on the topic.

It gets tedious to be the people who are always willingly welcoming the
British invasions "whilst" still being the people who are constantly treated
like a 2nd world country by the moochers.  So it goes.

Ryan


On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:

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> http://www.google.be/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=michel+bauwens+manuel+castells
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson at gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:17 AM
> Subject: Open Source not anti-capitalist but a-capitalist
> To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
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> http://mediaresearchhub.ssrc.org/manuel-castells-on-open-source/resource_view
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> *" He argues that Open Source is not anti-capitalist but a-capitalist "*
>
>  Manuel Castells on Open Source (Online Article)
>     Manuel Castells <http://mediaresearchhub.ssrc.org/manuel-castells>
> *WSISPapers.Choike.org <http://wsispapers.choike.org/>*
>  Topic(s) of work: Development, ICT4D, Media Industries, Software, Free /
> Open Source  Abstract
>
> Manuel Castells gets behind the logic, the inspiration, the history, the
> progress and the future of Open Source. He argues that Open Source is not
> anti-capitalist but a-capitalist, meaning that it is compatible with
> different social logics and values. It is based on a form of social
> organization that has profound political implications and may affect the way
> we think about the need to preserve capitalist institutions and hierarchies
> of production.
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