[p2p-research] fakeness of recovery

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Fri Jan 1 13:14:11 CET 2010


thanks Ryan, interesting as always, though of course much of the reactions
also depend on social milieu ...

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/31/09, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think the comparison between anglosaxon and iberic colonialism is skewed
>> by north american success,
>>
>> - the british colonies outside did not do that spectacularly well,
>>
>> and
>>
>> - iberic colonialism was not predicated on the genocide of the natives,
>> unlike anglo-american colonialism
>>
>> but of course that very crime created a terra nullius without feudal
>> impediments to create a commercial state ...
>>
>> Michel
>
>
>
> I cannot speak to the details of any social situation.  I know what is
> going on in Venezuela is profound and beyond reversal and have heard this
> from a few people I've asked informally who are more knowledgeable than me.
> The jury is somewhat out...but trending pretty negative from people I've
> chatted with here.  Most of the old Venezuelan oligarchs are now ensconced
> in a thriving Panama.  Panama and Colombia are emerging as economic
> powerhouses.  Chile and Bolivia are trading a great deal of natural
> resources to China and some finished products (e.g. wine) to the U.S.
>
> People I talked to here were very positive about Colombia and Argentina.
> Chile was dismissed as a natural resource story...as was Bolivia.  Bolivia,
> I was told, compares very well with Zambia in Africa.  Both possible risers
> based on huge natural resource wealth (both in mostly copper).
>
> People here regularly visit Colombia...Baranquillo especially...which is
> booming.  I hear Caracas is like Havana...locked in a former time...sort of
> frozen.  People who invest are investing in Panama.
>
> We watch Honduras closely...have a regular flight there.  It is poor and
> struggling, but only modestly corrupt compared to some others (especially
> the much doubted Belize.)
>
> I'll ask around and see if I can get anything more.  I hear Peru is
> considered very corrupt...as is Ecuador.  Apparently the way to get a job
> in those places is strictly through nepotism.  Belize is probably
> the regional capital of corruption.
>
>



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