[p2p-research] [Commoning] Am I missing any commons?

[Michel Bauwens]

I agree, but pragmatically it is possible to have open and free input and
universal access to digital and knowledge resources, with the externalities
taken care of by the public or private infrastructures

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Massimo De Angelis <
m.deangelis at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> please note
>
> finite resources ALSO apply to non physical commons -- the only difference
> is that the p2p commoners do not experience a direct constraints, as this
> finitude is externalised unto others  (unlike  the communities expropriated
> of their land to make space for energy plants to power servers that are
> necessary for an increasing number of p2p cyber-commoners to write open
> software and of web surfer to download and browse stuff . . .)
>
> massimo
> On 26 Feb 2010, at 08:50, Michel Bauwens wrote:
>
> exactly Patrick, this means that, barring more precise definitions, P2P
> Commons are indeed limited to a specific type of commons, where this is
> possible, but there can be many other commons, like the ones that need to
> restrict access and usage.
>
> I can imagine a category of peer-informed commons, where despite the need
> for access control, equipotential value is respected
>
> Michel
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Patrick Anderson <agnucius at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Michel Bauwens wrote:
>> > a P2P commons would have to consists of:
>> >
>> > open and free input, no exclusions or a priori control of contributions
>> >
>> > participation in governance by all contributors
>> >
>> > universal availability
>>
>>
>> What do you mean by "no exclusions" and "universal availability" when
>> speaking of the finite resources in a physical commons?
>>
>> Are you saying access/admission and use across time must be
>> unconditional and infinite in duration?
>>
>> Not everybody can use the oven at once.  How will we schedule and
>> allocate these material assets?
>>
>> Or any attempt to schedule or allocate automatically disqualify us
>> from being either P2P or from being a commons?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Patrick
>>
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