[p2p-research] Am I missing any commons?
Michel Bauwens
michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Thu Feb 25 15:58:19 CET 2010
thanks Ryan, I leave it up to sepp to do something with Ning, since I"m
leaving soon, I can't really engage for now,
Michel
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Michel,
>
> Thanks. Feel free (you or Sepp) to edit and make as communal as you like.
> I am particularly interested in rebuttals. Patrick and Kevin usually can
> get my goat, in particular.
>
> Ryan
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Ryan,
>>
>> I find your principles eminently sensible and at first sight, it seems I
>> would agree with all of them
>>
>> I'm publishing this on the regular blog on march 6, but I'm wondering if
>> Sepp could not introduce this proposal on Ning as well?
>>
>> see already:
>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/when-is-a-commons-not-a-true-commons-boundary-conditions/2010/03/06
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Michel Bauwens <
>>> michelsub2004 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that there should definitely a set of conditions for a strong
>>>> and real commons; and an expanded version for a weaker version, but both
>>>> should have clear boundary conditions.
>>>>
>>>> In my view, it should be clearly restricted to common property, and not
>>>> public property like libraries.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I think the key boundaries are as follows:
>>>
>>> 1. A P2P Commons attempt to maximize free, voluntary and open sharing of
>>> assets that are engaged in the commons.
>>> 2. Assets placed in the commons are irrevocably there and cannot be
>>> removed for personal gains. Ongoing participation in a commons implies
>>> shared responsibility for its sustaining expenses. When a commons cannot be
>>> sustained, it is dissolved so as to maximize reuse and sharing of its prior
>>> assets without cost or selfish limitations.
>>>
>>> 3. P2P (though not necessarily a commons) emphasizes reduced hierarchical
>>> control and greater autonomy of the individual. The role of parties, states,
>>> churches, co-ops, corporations, shareholding owners and other collective
>>> action bodies is intentionally minimized in any form of governance of the
>>> commons.
>>>
>>> Secondary boundaries (many may reject these in individual terms and still
>>> claim status as a P2P commons):
>>>
>>> a. Commons work to avoid free riding by encouraging valid and useful
>>> contributions to the commons as a sustainable process.
>>> b. P2P commons work to minimize governance interventions.
>>> c. Commons work to provide useful and valuable tools, assets and services
>>> to participants.
>>> d. Commons reject inputs and uses that are applied for gains that are not
>>> sustainable or that adversely impact the environment.
>>> e. Commons apply open, fair and recognizably democratic means to govern
>>> themselves.
>>> f. Commons are not owned by a state. They are created out of voluntary
>>> participation mechanisms where users and participants continually and freely
>>> choose to participate and the right to exit from participation and support
>>> clearly exists.
>>> g. Commons are not a part of or party to any form of capitalism,
>>> communism, anarchism or socialism as a political ideal and may be compatible
>>> with any form of government that allows voluntary and free participation in
>>> protected sharing schemes that are self-governing within reasonably
>>> constraints (e.g. valid safety or environmental regulations).
>>> h. P2P commons reject the idea of a single controller, a controller or
>>> governor for life, or any mode of control or ownership of the commons that
>>> positions one person or one group as a vanguard, protector, trustee or
>>> governor acting beyond reasonable terms of a few years and freely chosen by
>>> participating members. Organizers and social entrepreneurs who start
>>> commons with benign intent and who have imbued a commons with their own
>>> personal will have greater latitude under this criterion so long as their
>>> actions are reasonably consistent with the long-term goals and boundaries of
>>> commons.
>>> i. Commons are perpetual and may not be privatized.
>>> j. Commons work toward ideals of general public good even if the public
>>> good is at odds with most members of the commons.
>>>
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