[p2p-research] Am I missing any commons?

Thu Feb 25 10:14:00 CET 2010

I think that there should definitely a set of conditions for a strong and
real commons; and an expanded version for a weaker version, but both should
have clear boundary conditions.

In my view, it should be clearly restricted to common property, and not
public property like libraries.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Ryan Lanham <rlanham1963 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Michel:
>
> I would suggest a binary set of classification:
>
> 1. What is shared.
>
> 2. How is it shared.
>
> Item two is the more diverse set.  It includes means of protecting the
> commons; means of expanding it; means of governing it.
>
> For the most part, elements under 1 are relatively uncontroversial except
> in relations to items under 2.  All of the controversy of the commons is
> related to "how."  It is there that systemic backgrounds come into play and
> anarchists are divided from liberals, libertarians from governance
> advocates, and classic communists from techno-utopians, etc.  I agree that
> P2PF needs to be neutral on most of these fronts, but that doesn't mean that
> various "wings" cannot have strong boundaries.  I generally support commons
> and open but only in the context of rule of law, democratic institutions,
> etc. That is my classification.  It is different than, say, Kevin's.   What
> is problematic is the idea that one classification nullifies the prospect of
> dialogue and interaction with any other.  The existence of the
> classifications is not inherently problematic...it is the unwillingness to
> see across boundaries and to revisit them that is a problem.
>
> For example, is the commons organized under the rule of law in a given
> domain.
>
> My guess is that if one started with item 2 above, there could be a
> relatively small and tight list of necessary conditions, etc. for a range
> of, say 16 major classifications of commons.  Of course the leaves are
> infinite.  I would still like to argue that commons are for more "common"
> than most think.  Of course that is an argument of structure/function.
> Without a taxonomy, such a discussion is impossible to manage.
>
> Open questions: Is a public library a commons?  I would say yes.  Others
> might disagree. We should be able to tick down a list of criteria that
> define it one way or the other.  If it is a vehicle of the state (as most
> libraries) some would say, no, it cannot be a commons.
>
> My guess is that such a morphology would lead to terms of "strong" and
> "weak" versions of this or that.  Such classifications are not intrinsically
> useful, but they would provide designers with a set of branching design
> decisions that would allow them to explain themselves, seek peers or to
> innovate by splitting categories in new ways.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> thanks for suggesting the missing pieces of the puzzle, and to eventually
>> include links to where I can find documentation:
>>
>>
>> see: http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Commons
>>
>> Sam Rose and Paul Hartzog offer the following typology for Commons based
>> on different distributed infrastructures:
>>
>>   1. Energy Commons
>>   2. Food Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Food_Commons>
>>   3. Thing Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Thing_Commons>
>>
>>
>>   4. Cultural Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Cultural_Commons>
>>
>>   5. Access Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Access_Commons>
>>
>> See also: Commons - Typology<http://p2pfoundation.net/Commons_-_Typology>
>>
>>
>>  Examples
>>
>> Physical Commons:
>>
>>    1. Atmosphere Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Atmosphere_Commons> ; Atmospheric
>>    Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Atmospheric_Commons>
>>    2. Food Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Food_Commons> ; Food as
>>    Common and Community<http://p2pfoundation.net/Food_as_Common_and_Community>
>>    3. Infrastructure Commons<http://p2pfoundation.net/Infrastructure_Commons>
>>    4. Land as Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Land_as_Commons>
>>
>> Knowledge/Culture Commons:
>>
>>    1. Book Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Book_Commons>
>>    2. Cultural Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Cultural_Commons>
>>    3. Educational Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Educational_Commons>
>>    4. Genome Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Genome_Commons>
>>    5. Global Innovation Commons<http://p2pfoundation.net/Global_Innovation_Commons>
>>    6. Global Integral-Spiritual Commons<http://p2pfoundation.net/Global_Integral-Spiritual_Commons>
>>    7. History Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/History_Commons>
>>    8. Information Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Information_Commons> ;
>>    Information as a Common-Pool Resource<http://p2pfoundation.net/Information_as_a_Common-Pool_Resource>
>>    9. Knowledge Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Knowledge_Commons> ; Knowledge
>>    as a Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Knowledge_as_a_Commons>
>>    10. Learning Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Learning_Commons>
>>    11. Music Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Music_Commons>
>>    12. Open Education Commons<http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Education_Commons>
>>    13. Open Scientific Software Commons<http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Scientific_Software_Commons> ;
>>    Open Source Science Commons<http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Science_Commons>
>>    14. Patent Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Patent_Commons> ;
>>    [[[Eco-Patent Commons]]
>>    15. Petroleum Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Petroleum_Commons>
>>    16. Solar Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Solar_Commons>
>>    17. Water Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Water_Commons>
>>
>>
>> Institutional Commons:
>>
>>    1. Financial Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Financial_Commons>
>>    2. Global Legal Commons<http://p2pfoundation.net/Global_Legal_Commons>
>>    3. Household as Commons<http://p2pfoundation.net/Household_as_Commons>
>>    4. Internet Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Internet_Commons>
>>    5. NonProfit Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/NonProfit_Commons>
>>    6. Taxes as Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Taxes_as_Commons>
>>    7. Thing Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Thing_Commons>
>>    8. Urban Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Urban_Commons>
>>    9. Wireless Commons <http://p2pfoundation.net/Wireless_Commons>
>>
>>
>>
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