[p2p-research] on the importance of personal servers for the new multi-literate society

[Michel Bauwens]

I think of SD are a really bright internet commentator, but have never
succeeded in having a feed ...

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Sepp Hasslberger <sepp at lastrega.com> wrote:

> Dear Michel,
>
> the stephen downes quotes are interesting and I agree with his perspective
> on things.
>
> In the first quote though, I do not understand his reference to "out of the
> blue", probably because I lack the original context. Do you (or does anyone
> else on the list) know what Downes means by "So I pick "out of the blue"
> even though (I think) I can see them coming from a mile away."??
>
> (Pause, search, read...)
>
> Oh I see. I went to check the Pew report. Downes' response is connected
> with the question (two choices), which was as follows:
>
> 1) The hot gadgets and applications that will capture the imagination of
> users in 2020 are pretty evident today and will not take many of today's
> savvy innovators by surprise.
>
> 2) The hot gadgets and applications that will capture the imagination of
> users in 2020 will often come "out of the blue" and not have been
> anticipated by many of today's savviest innovators.
>
> So with the question in mide, Downes' response here (the first one of your
> quotes), it becomes clear, is a hedged bet ;))
>
> Kind regards
> Sepp
>
>
>  On 21/feb/10, at 08:03, Michel Bauwens wrote:
>
>  Dear Sepp,
>
> this quote by stephen downes seems important, and it's something I not
> fully understand, I think our readers would benefit if you could explain the
> benefitss of this strategy to them,
>
> see http://halfanhour.blogspot.com/2010/02/pew-report-interview.html
>
> “I choose to see personal web‐server technology (Opera Unite, Firefox POW,
> etc) as a breakthrough technology, so people can put their own data into the
> cloud without paying Flickr or whomever. It is this sort of 'personal
> technology' I believe will characterize (what we now call) web 3.0 (and not
> 3D, or semantic web, etc.). So my dilemma is that, while these technologies
> are pretty evident today, it is not clear that the people I suspect Pew
> counts as “the savviest innovators” are looking at them. So I pick “out of
> the blue” even though (I think) I can see them coming from a mile away.” –
> Stephen Downes, National Research Council, Canada
>
>
> also interesting:
>
> “The internet generation is being exposed to text and media in
> unprecedented quantities, and more, is not just consuming this media, but
> producing it as well. Practice tells. The improvement will be especially
> dramatic and apparent because new readers will be compared primarily with
> the previous generation, the television generation, which for the most part
> did not read at all. Unfortunately, this improvement will be apparent only
> to the newly literate generation; the older generation will continue to
> complain that young people cannot read, despite evidence to the contrary.
> Moreover, it will be apparent by 2020 that a multi‐literate society has
> developed, one that can communicate with ease through a variety of media,
> including art and photography, animation, video, games and simulations, as
> well as text and code.” – Stephen Downes, National Research Council, Canada
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