[p2p-research] Fwd: [fcforum] Fw: iPad DRM is a dangerous step backward. Sign the petition!

[Michel Bauwens]

I think Kevin made it clear in the last email that both he and him are not
unsympathetic to the issues of monetary survival, but rather that we are
convinced that the way foreward in an age of easy digital reproduction, is
not the suppression of the latter, but finding solutions that are based on
this irreducible social fact. Of course, we have to acknowledge that under
current political-economic conditions, these social fact creates a 'crisis
of value' and a crisis of monetization that affects not just just corporate
profiteers, but individual creators.

Humanity is groping for solutions, but the problem can't be wished or
repressed away.

I think Marco's approach is legitimate, asking for removal, and I hope it
works for the author and the publisher. I would probably suffer the same
issue, in my case, I decided to be happy the more my work is spread around,
and aimed to built a career on the secondary services, i.e. through paid
lectures. Needless to say, this has been a rocky and problematic road.

Michel



On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:13 AM, M. Fioretti <mfioretti at nexaima.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 21:09:02 PM +0700, Michel Bauwens (
> michelsub2004 at gmail.com) wrote:
>
> > I understand the idea behind objecting to republishing, but I don't
> > see it as enforceable at all, can you prosecute someone because you
> > miss on a banner?
>
> Every now and then, I do quickly check online if there are copies of
> something I wrote.  So far, every time I found copies, I or the editor
> were able to have them canceled. Not by going to court, mind you. We
> just asked. The fact that it is a violation of copyright of course
> helped to get their attention. Without copyright it would have been
> surely more difficult.
>
> I know perfectly that it would be impossible to have 100% success on
> this, but that's OK. It's much better than no protection at all.
>
> This said, if I had unlimited resources I would not set up advertising
> campaigns to convince people that copying is some crime against
> humanity. I would set up advertising campaigns to convince people that
> in some cases it's just plain dumb and unglamorous (kind of like
> smoking in a small closed room filled with children) and even
> counterproductive. Downloading music and movies 24/7 as if there were
> no tomorrow is what gives things like ACTA many more chances to
> happen.
>
> If people had been smart enough 10 years ago (and if intellectuals had
> thought a bit more about this) to buy, share and download only stuff
> that was really necessary and urgent (think textbooks) or at least out
> of print, for just a few months, we wouldn't have to worry about ACTA
> today. See http://stop.zona-m.net/node/88
>
> This said, what upsets me the most is that there is almost no
> awareness of the sides of the issue I have presented here these days.
> For example, you wrote:
>
> > Now I realize that there are people that republish only for
> > commercial gain.  fail to attibute, etc.. This is I agree an ethical
> > problem.
> > If your material is copyrighted you do have legal recource and I'm
> > not opposed to that, however pragmaticallhy difficult it may be to
> > actually realize in practice,
>
> and while I'm obviously happy that you agree that what I describe is a
> problem, and that you're not opposed to recource... in general, I'm
> more concerned about the fact that there is almost no acknowledgement
> and diffusion of these concepts than of how difficult recource is.
>
> Oh, and by the way your work on the P2P wiki and blog is COMPLETELY
> different from the kind of leeching I have attacked in this
> thread. Please note I have only and constantly spoken of integral
> copies, sometimes even without attribution. You or anybody else are
> always very welcome to excerpt and comment and link as you please, as
> far as I'm concerned. I never said the contrary and I wouldn't
> consider smart anybody who objected to such activities, for the same
> reasons you described.
>
> Marco
>
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