[p2p-research] Fwd: [fcforum] Fw: iPad DRM is a dangerous step backward. Sign the petition!

Michel Bauwens michelsub2004 at gmail.com
Sat Feb 6 06:20:31 CET 2010


Dear Kevin,

you are assuming  an enormous amount of 'ifs' which have little short term
chance of being adopted at all, (i.e. "remove all forms of state-enforced
artificial property and artificial scarcity")

freemium and other strategies do sound good, and can be applied to a certain
extent, but for example Kevin Kelly has revisited his 1,000 true fans model
with concrete testimonies from artists using it, and the conclusion is, it
is extraordinarly difficult, it doesn't work for most of those who tried it.
So it is a minority solution for the moment, not a panacea.

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 1:38 AM, Kevin Carson <
free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2/5/10, M. Fioretti <mfioretti at nexaima.net> wrote:
>
> > > Nobody is entitled to a guarantee of the ability to recoup sunk
> >  > costs of any kind.  You are free to spend your time any way you see
> >  > fit, and to devise any business model you can think of to get money
> >  > from so doing--so long as it doesn't involve coercing other people
> >  > to make the business model viable.
>
> > Very good point, but relax, I NEVER wanted to say anything of the
> >  sort, nor do I think it. That sentence of mine above fully justifies
> >  your reaction. Sorry, my mistake, it's been a long week. Here is what
> >  I do think and what I would have written if I had re-read that message
> >  of mine before sending it:
> >
> >  "I do certain things only if I know in advance that, IN CASE it does
> >  (not "could"!!!)  generate some money in the first N years (where N
> >  should be much, much less than it is today), that money comes to ME,
> >  that is to the person who did spend his own time to do that thing, and
> >  that I can stop others who didn't make any effort at all from taking a
> >  part of that money".
>
> Thanks for the clarification, Marco.
>
> But what about the kinds of business models Chris Anderson and Mike
> Masnick point to, making money off of scarce goods associated with
> content, rather than off of the content itself?
>
> I think that Eric Reasons is correct that the total "money pie" will
> be less than that from the proprietary content it supplants, true
> enough.
>
> But at the same time, if we remove all forms of state-enforced
> artificial property and artificial scarcity, the portion of the prices
> of all the things that we consume that comes from embedded rents on
> proprietary content, proprietary design, planned obsolescence
> supported by proprietary design, subsidized waste, legally mandated
> overhead cost, etc., will disappear.  Not to mention the portion of
> living cost that comes from inflated asset values of land and housing,
> the portion of healthcare cost that comes from drug patents and
> licensing and mandated high-cost ways of doing things, etc.  This
> means that the total overhead cost of living will be much, much lower,
> and the pressure to spend time at wage labor and to  recoup a large
> income stream to service those costs will also be much less.
>
> --
> Kevin Carson
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> http://mutualist.blogspot.com
> Organization Theory:  A Libertarian Perspective
> http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2005/12/studies-in-anarchist-theory-of.html
>
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