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[Michel Bauwens]

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> Is it pretending that socialism is a real modality?  When and where has
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> Ryan
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Hi Ryan,

I'm not sure what you are asking here? who is pretending socialism is a real
modality?

I'll ignore the who question, and will answer about socialism anyway,

of course it is important to know what kind of socialism we are talking
about?

- are we talking about the statist centralization of the means of
production, the Soviet model? which only survives in 2-3 countries

- are we talking about social democratic redistribution, weakened but which
has become entrenched at the same time in western europe?

- or are you talking about peer to peer dynamic, now thriving and practiced
in many areas and which technically corresponds to Marx' definition of
communism, but only exists as a real dynamic in the sphere of immaterial
production?


I think that very few people still believe in the first, that the second
exists but is no longer seen to solve anything fundamental, and only the
third is growing.

Please note that it is entirely immaterial that this corresponds to Marx
definition; as well described by alan page fiske in structures of social
life, 'communal shareholding' or 'generalized exchange' or 'non-conditional
reciprocity' has existed throughout the ages and throughout all cultures,
though always subsumed to other dominant systems. But it is now emerging as
a central feature of a new mode of produciton and value creation, that is
increasingly nestled in the core of the system, instead of the periphery,
though still broadly subsumed to another system of accumulation.
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