[p2p-research] Antw: Re: following Berlin Conference in the commons

Fri Dec 17 10:52:49 CET 2010

really well done, thanks Sam!

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:

> Done:
>
>
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Commons#Charlotte_Hess:_Mapping_the_New_Commons
>
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Sam,
> >
> > could you upload the map page 14 in the enclosed document, and add it
> here
> > at
> >
> >
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Commons#Charlotte_Hess:_Mapping_the_New_Commons
> >
> > many thanks!
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Wojtek Kalinowski <kalinowski at i-r-e.org>
> > Date: Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 10:16 PM
> > Subject: RE: Antw: Re: following Berlin Conference in the commons
> > To: Silke Helfrich <Silke.Helfrich at gmx.de>
> > Cc: Frédéric Sultan <fredericsultan at gmail.com>, Grupo de Apoio
> > <secretariagrap at gmail.com>, Moema <moema at ibase.br>, Chico Whitaker
> > <chicowf at uol.com.br>, Heike Loeschmann <Loeschmann at boell.de>,
> alainambrosi
> > <ambrosia at web.ca>, dakar at bienscommuns.org, David Bollier
> > <david at bollier.org>, herve at cfeditions.com, Simon Emmanuel Roux
> > <Simon.roux at communautique.qc.ca>, Nicola Bullard <n.bullard at focusweb.org
> >,
> > Gaelle Krikorian <gaelle.krikorian at gmail.com>, Michel Bauwens
> > <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>, Miguel Said Vieira <miguelsvieira at gmail.com>,
> > Rosa Acevedo <ream30 at hotmail.com>, Olivier Petitjean
> > <o.petitjean at ritimo.org>, Valerie Peugeot <valerie.peugeot at vecam.org>,
> > Beatriz Busaniche <bea at vialibre.org.ar>, genevieve azam
> > <genevieve.azam at wanadoo.fr>, Ulrich Brand <ulrich.brand at univie.ac.at>,
> > jcleite at dglnet.com.br
> >
> >
> > Dear all, sorry for this late reaction. Since the idea of putting the
> > Commons on the Rio+20 agenda has been mentioned, I want you to know that
> our
> > Foundation is supporting several networks that prepare events for that
> > occasion, our principal partner and coordinator for this being Candido
> > Grzybowsky from Ibase (The Brazilian Institute of Social and Economic
> > Analyses). Would you like to have more information about this, please
> > contact Ibase directly or Gustavo Marin, the person that coordinates this
> > here at the Foundation. His e-mail: gustavo-marin at world-governance.org
> >
> > Please keep me informed about the CSG's plans for the future, especially
> > about your ideas of how to promote commons-oriented policy solutions, at
> > what level of governance, with what kind of expertise, etc. If I
> understood
> > our previous discussions correctly, the purpose is not to create a new
> > social movement but rather to distill the Commons principles throughout
> the
> > existing ones and within the society as such ; in that respect, I think
> it
> > is an excellent idea to arrange workshops on Commons in Dakar. But the
> > question of how to promote Commons goes much deeper, it merits a thorough
> > reflection. Since the Conference I've been reading "Mapping New Commons"
> by
> > Charlotte Hess, a text that most of you certainly know already, but which
> I
> > found most useful in mapping out the new fields of Commons (see page 13
> in
> > the attached filed). The Conference showed the great "variety of species"
> of
> > Commons, but probably "commons-oriented solutions" will have to be
> specific
> > for each of the groups identified by Hess.
> >
> > All best,
> >
> > Wojtek
> >
> >
> > Wojtek Kalinowski
> > "Initiative for Rethinking Economy"
> > Charles Leopold Mayer Foundation
> > 38 rue St-Sabin
> > 75011 Paris / France
> >
> > Tel :  + 33(0)1 43 14 75 75
> > Direct line : +33(0)1 43 14 75 67
> > Fax : + 33(0) 43 14 75 99
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> > www.i-r-e.org
> >
> >
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Silke Helfrich [mailto:Silke.Helfrich at gmx.de]
> > Envoyé : mardi 16 novembre 2010 16:29
> > À : jcleite at dglnet.com.br
> > Cc : Frédéric Sultan; Grupo de Apoio; Moema; Chico Whitaker; Heike
> > Loeschmann; alainambrosi; dakar at bienscommuns.org; David Bollier;
> > herve at cfeditions.com; Simon Emmanuel Roux; Nicola Bullard; Gaelle
> Krikorian;
> > Michel Bauwens; Miguel Said Vieira; Rosa Acevedo; Wojtek Kalinowski;
> Olivier
> > Petitjean; Valerie Peugeot; Beatriz Busaniche; genevieve azam; Ulrich
> Brand
> > Objet : Re: Antw: Re: following Berlin Conference in the commons
> >
> > Caro Jos醇P,
> >
> > great to stay on touch again,
> > I am happy, that the International Commons Conference in Berlin allowed
> > for the discussions Fr醇Pd醇Pric just summarized, and I am confident that
> we
> > can built upon what has been done since Bel醇Pm 2009!
> >
> > I remember the intense discussion on the first Manifest draft in Bel醇Pm,
> > I hardly could find the room where you were already working for about an
> > hour and my fear was, while walking around on the Uni Campus, that I
> > would completely miss the debate. But I found the room with only one
> > hour delay and I now remember the following two hour session as a key
> > moment of the commons debate with and within social movements.
> >
> > I am not sure how we will proced to interlink our proposals with the
> > global agenda as structured by GRAP, for me, the commons is clearly part
> > of
> >
> > 5. Nova articula醇M醇Io das pluralidades e das diversidades
> > 6. Mapa estrat醇Pgico das lutas emancipat醇prias
> >
> > Looks like a more attractive framing compared to Robertos proposal.
> >
> > As for the Hands off Mother Earth! Great, again, it's all about
> convergence,
> > it reminds me a great discussion we had in Berlin on the "Rights of
> MOther
> > Earth" vs. Commons?" approach.
> > As a result the "versus" and the '?' were taken off the workshop title
> > (that's at least what I understood. Pat Mooney put it in an easily
> > understandable image: Imagine there will be two big tents in Dakar.
> > One with panels and workshops on "The commons", the other with panels and
> > workshops on "The rights of Mother Earth" - Do you want people to choose?
> > I don't, I am convinced that those discussions are ONE ONLY discussions
> > framed by the commons.
> > Both approaches are rooted in different (political cultures), but both
> are
> > based on the core idea of building resilient communities (IMHO the Rights
> of
> > Mother Earth
> > approach in a certain way HAS to rely on existing institutions and
> > instruments, the Commons approach tries to add to this and to re-/invent
> new
> > institutions.)
> >
> > So, for me the broader picture will be delivered by a commons approach,
> > bridging human rights with the rights of mother earth approach, with more
> > classical approaches of social re-appropriation and so on.
> >
> > Please have a look at the workshop summary prepared by Val醇Prie:
> >
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Berlin_Commons_Conference/Workshops/MergedWorkshop
> >
> > I hope we meet in Dakar, whatever is needed (if it's not too time
> consuming
> > :-() I'll be happy to support the process for Commons Strategies Group
> > http://www.commonsstrategies.org/
> >
> > All the best
> > Silke
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 00:51 -0200, jcleite at dglnet.com.br wrote:
> >> Dear Fred
> >>
> >> Sorry the delay in answer your mail. It was a very, very busy week. And
> >> good that you take the time to deep your discussion.
> >>
> >> Our group, the Grap, that promoted the Seminar in Porto Alegre this
> >> January (in which Silke attended), is involved in Dakar preparation
> >>  discussing with the networks “Crisis of civilization and alternative
> >> paradigms” (“crisis de civilizacion y paradigmas alternativos”, in the
> line
> >> of “Cochabamba Conference”, in the Ubuntu list  Roberto Espinoza,
> Edgardo
> >> Lander, Anibal Quijano...) and “World Network for Colective Rights”
> (“Red
> >> Mundial por los Derechos Colectivos” - Carles Riera of Ciemen...). Our
> >> African partners of “Peoples Dialogue” (Dialogo dos povos  Mercia and
> >> Brian...) are preparing a panel on “Africa and the crisis of
> civilization”
> >> in the first day (dedicated to Africans discussions). We probably will
> >> federated ourselves around other people involved in the discussing the
> axis
> >> 12 of the Dakar Forum. And we are planing to invite some people to
> panels
> >> promoted by these broad spectrum of organizations.
> >>
> >> I will present some of our ideas bellow, but before I want to underline
> >> the global strategy that we are discussing. Dakar will be very
> important,
> >> but has some limits to integrate several discussions in alternative
> >> paradigms in which we are focused; the same for other important foruns
>  we
> >> don't have good perspectives, for example, in climate talks in Cancun
> and
> >> Johannesburg. We need to build a horizon for converge a large number of
> >> initiatives and have time to mature these processes. So, we began to
> work
> >> with the idea of organize a global forum of civil society parallel to
> the
> >> official meeting of UN Rio + 20, in May 2012, in Rio de Janeiro. We
> already
> >> are involved in the work to prepare this large forum  with some groups
> >> usually not deep involved in the WSF process. Our aim is to develop and
> give
> >> a high visibility to the agenda that emerged in Belem  mainly
> alternatives
> >> to "developmentism" (a crucial issue that even Cochabamba Conference
> didn't
> >> confronted).
> >>
> >> We believe that commons is a central issue in our agenda and we want to
> >> promote with you at least one activity on the subject. But our global
> agenda
> >> is open.
> >>
> >> Candido proposed to Grap organize a seminar in days two and three around
> >> these themes:
> >> 1. Descolonialidade: subverter a ordem dominante
> >> 2. Cr醇^tica aos ideais civilizat醇prios do progresso capitalista
> >> 3. O imperativo 醇Ptico para uma biociviliza醇M醇Io
> >> 4. Dialogo com COPs
> >> 5. Nova articula醇M醇Io das pluralidades e das diversidades
> >> 6. Mapa estrat醇Pgico das lutas emancipat醇prias
> >>
> >> And Roberto is proposing a seminar on Crise de civilizaciones
> hegemonicas
> >> y dominantes, descolonialidad y paradigmas alternativos:
> >> 1. Crisis de civilizaciones hegemonicas y dominantes, y de la modernidad
> >> colonialidad  / eurocentrada
> >> 2. Derechos colectivos y descolonialidad y socializacion del poder
> >> 3. Desmercantilizacion de la vida y agresion climatica
> >> 4. Emancipacion del racismo, patriarcado, eurocentrimos y
> >> antropocentrismo.
> >>
> >> Carles will also organize something  with our support  on colective
> >> rights. And we are also discussing  throught Chico - support an Etc
> Group
> >> meeting on “Hands Off Mother Earth”.
> >>
> >> We will send an organizational team to support Dakar process several
> weeks
> >> before the event.
> >>
> >> And I will try to follow the SDWF process, after the mid-december (when
> >> finish my work in the University).
> >>
> >> Well that's the general idea. We will held two Grap's meetings in
> November
> >> 19 and December 3, in which we will format our seminar and iniciatives
> and
> >> discuss the relationship with partners iniciatives.
> >> If you want, we can talk. My number is (55)(11)8489-6442. Afternoon's
> end
> >> is my best hour to talk.
> >> I copy this mail to our secretary and to Moema and Chico, that must be
> >> returning from Dakar.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Ze'
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Mensagem original -----
> >> De: "Fr醇Pd醇Pric Sultan" <fredericsultan at gmail.com>
> >> Para: "Silke Helfrich" <Silke.Helfrich at gmx.de>
> >> Cc: "Heike Loeschmann" <Loeschmann at BOELL.DE>, "alainambrosi"
> >> <ambrosia at web.ca>, dakar at bienscommuns.org, "David Bollier"
> >> <david at bollier.org>, herve at cfeditions.com, "Simon Emmanuel Roux"
> >> <Simon.roux at communautique.qc.ca>,
> >> jcleite at dglnet.com.br, "Nicola Bullard" <n.bullard at focusweb.org>,
> "Gaelle
> >> Krikorian" <gaelle.krikorian at gmail.com>,
> >> "Michel Bauwens" <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>, "Miguel Said Vieira"
> >> <miguelsvieira at gmail.com>, "Rosa Acevedo"
> >> <ream30 at hotmail.com>, "Wojtek Kalinowski" <kalinowski at i-r-e.org>,
> "Olivier
> >> Petitjean" <o.petitjean at ritimo.org>, "Valerie
> >> Peugeot" <valerie.peugeot at vecam.org>, "Beatriz Busaniche"
> >> <bea at vialibre.org.ar>, "genevieve azam"
> >> <genevieve.azam at wanadoo.fr>
> >> Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 15 de Novembro de 2010 20:42:56
> >> Assunto: Re: Antw: Re: following Berlin Conference in the commons
> >>
> >> hi
> >>
> >> Here is the synthesis of our short discussion. It could be used to
> >> spread invitations to people and organizations to join the discussion.
> >> Do not hesitate to adapt or improve it for your own needs.
> >>
> >> All the best
> >> Fred
> >>
> >>
> >> Bringing the discussion on The Commons to Dakar In February 2011 at the
> >> World Social Forum
> >>
> >> The World Social Forum and the World Forum on Science and Democracy will
> >> be two opportunities for the commoners to interact with other civic and
> >> social movements.
> >>
> >> Discussion on the Commons in the World Forum on Science and Democracy
> >> (WFSD) The World Forum on Science and Democracy (WFSD) will be held on
> >> February the 4th and 5th. Its objective is twofold : questioning the
> >> functionning of the scientific institutions and funding (science and
> >> technology political orientation, means of production of knowledge,
> >> independence fo
> >> scientists…) and promoting alternatives considering Science as a common
> >> (open archives, open educational resources, open scientific publication,
> >> open data…).
> >>
> >> Two frames are proposed by the WFSD : plenary sessions and self
> >> organized workshops. We would like to propose a set of workshops and a
> >> plenary session based in the two following issues :
> >>  Struggles for Commons knowledge : open science, diversity in the
> >> production of knowledge, alliances ... and so what ? (I assume that this
> >> proposal is lapidaire (!) I believe that we could developp it together).
> >>  How researchers address the issue of the elaboration of the notion of
> >> commons and the analisys of the populare experiences, with and by social
> >> and civic movements ?
> >>
> >> Perhaps the result of such workshops could be a note written with
> >> participants, not at all a declaration, but a proposal of shared agenda
> >> of work for the period from now to Rio + 20.
> >>
> >> We will be pleased to organize this with all the organizations that
> >> will be in Dakar and will be volonteer to work with a such approach or
> >> at least that agree to discuss it and to participate in the elaboration
> >> of a shared program.
> >>
> >> Discussion on the Commons in the The World Social Forum
> >> The World Social Forum (on February the 7th and 11th) is a place to try
> >> to built a large political debate and discussion. A such process aims at
> >> to take in the table of the discussion political questions linked with
> >> commons, to move towards a politicization of the issue of the commons,
> >> and a shared strategy by activists and social movements. The
> >> articulation of such questions could allow us to elaborate a more global
> >> vision of the place and the role of commons in the project of social and
> >> political transformation with social movements.
> >>
> >> Some questions suggested to make more clear the proposal :
> >>  How to design the welfare state at the age of commons ?
> >>  How do the Rights of Mother Earth and the Commons approach complement
> >> each other in re-designing international solidarity?
> >>  What about popular education in the commons context ?
> >>  what are the transformations of the appropriation of political
> >> processes and governance by the citizens and the ways of doing politics
> >> in the era of the commons? what consequences, changes and opportunities
> >> for social movements?
> >>  What r醇sle to play by economic actors of the commons (free software,
> >> wiki..., foundations, corporations, mutualism, local solidarity economic
> >> actors, ...) in the economy at global and local levels ? How ? what
> >> alliances ? Business ...and so what ?
> >>  What shoud be the roles of commons in the consequences of the
> >> exploitation of natural resources (war, slave-work, environmental
> >> diseases, destruction of cultural patrimony, ... ) ?
> >>  what are the structures needed by social movements, and that they will
> >> assume, to link thinking and experience on the Commons, and action in
> >> their fields that refere to commons?
> >>  .... and other questions ?
> >>
> >> If other initiatives are prepared in relation with the Commons ; we need
> >> to identify them, interact with them and if it is possible agglutinate
> >> the proposals of activities in the forum.
> >>
> >> A list of discussion to prepare the work on The Commons in Dakar.
> >> A list has been created for bringing the discussion on the commons to
> >> Dakar in February 2011 at world social Forum and at the World Forum
> >> Science and Democracy. It is a space for discussion of the activities on
> >> the Commons during the World Social Forum and the World Forum Science
> >> and Democracy.
> >>
> >> The address of the list is : dakar at bienscommuns.org. Anyone can be
> >> registred at https://cf-editions.netaktiv.com/admin/login.php
> >>
> >> This space is largely open to all women and men who wish to exchange
> >> their ideas and experiences of the commons for social and political
> >> change.
> >>
> >> The discussion list is moderated for non-registered and non moderated
> >> for registrants. The archives are accessible to registered people. We do
> >> not want that languages will be an obstacle to participate, but we are
> >> not able to provide a systematic translation of the discussions. So we
> >> recommend using preferably English, French or Spanish in the list.
> >>
> >> This list is hosted by VECAM and moderated by Valerie Peugeot, Herve Le
> >> Crosnier, Alain Ambrosi and Frederic Sultan.
> >> You can contact them by sending an e-mail to
> >> dakar-owner at bienscommuns.org
> >>
> >> This proposal was made with the input from Rosa Acevedo, Alain Ambrosi,
> >> Genevieve Azam, Michel Bauwens, David Bollier, Nicola Bullard, Beatriz
> >> Busaniche, Silke Helfrich, Wojtek Kalinowski, Gaelle Krikorian, Herv醇P
> Le
> >> Crosnier, Heike Loeschmann, Olivier Petitjean, Valerie Peugeot, Simon
> >> Emmanuel Roux, Miguel Said Vieira, Fr醇Pd醇Pric Sultan. The most of them
> >> have subscribed to the discussion list.
> >>
> >> If you wish to take part in this discussion in order to prepare for
> >> Dakar, join us.
> >>
> >> Welcome and have a good discussion !
> >
> >
> >
> >
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