[p2p-research] the connective

Samuel Rose samuel.rose at gmail.com
Sat Dec 11 21:40:31 CET 2010


On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Patrick Anderson <agnucius at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Michel Bauwens,
>
> Do you remember telling me User Ownership has a potential problem of
> Worker exploitation?
>
> I'm just trying to understand if that position has changed, and if
> not, how that perceived problem will be solved.
>
> Your suggestion was to make sure the Workers had part ownership in the
> Means of Production.
>
> Does that mean private ownership of devices such as the PlugComputer
> must be shared with those who manufacture, configure and/or maintain
> those devices?
>
> If not, then maybe you can help me see past my confusion?
>
> Thanks,
> Patrick Anderson
>
>

Michel may have said this, or he may not have. But what *I* am saying
is that these hypothetical scenarios do not prove or disprove
anything. What matters in the end (at least to me) is what real people
actually do with plug computers. Not what they can, nor what we think
they should do.

Michel could change his position on what you are talking about to a
different thing on a minute-by-minute basis, and it won't really
matter to me at all in this case, until people are actually *doing
something* resembling what we are talking about with plug computers
(or anything for that matter). Let's at least see 2 people doing it,
ok? :)

For me, it's more important to see people doing what we are talking
about AND BENEFITING FROM IT IN A POSITIVE WAY THAT IMPROVES THEIR
LIVES, than to nitpick about who said what. It gets really, really,
really, really, really, really tiresome. :-D

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