[p2p-research] the connective

[Patrick Anderson]

Hello Michel Bauwens,

Do you remember telling me User Ownership has a potential problem of
Worker exploitation?

I'm just trying to understand if that position has changed, and if
not, how that perceived problem will be solved.

Your suggestion was to make sure the Workers had part ownership in the
Means of Production.

Does that mean private ownership of devices such as the PlugComputer
must be shared with those who manufacture, configure and/or maintain
those devices?

If not, then maybe you can help me see past my confusion?

Thanks,
Patrick Anderson



On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Samuel Rose <samuel.rose at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Patrick Anderson <agnucius at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I wonder how this is differs from http://P2PFoundation.net/User_Owned
>>
>> Specifically, I've been told Workers will be exploited if the Users
>> are the Owners.
>>
>> Will The Connective be able to avoid Worker exploitation?
>>
>>
>>
>
> I was not privy to the apparent previous discussion you mention where
> you were  "told Workers will be exploited if the Users are the
> Owners."
>
> Is it plausible to discuss these scenarios in a way that seems to
> indicate something will happen in all cases, when likely it would only
> happen under certain conditions? Do people really believe that in call
> cases of user ownership that workers will be exploited? If not, then
> why are we even framing discussion in this way. It seems to me to be
> destructive to useful dialogue to frame discussion in extremes where
> one declares that everything will or will not be a certain way if we
> do a certain thing. Reality bears out different results in practically
> every case. It's rarely "either this way, or that way". It is usually
> that things are either one way, or many other ways.
>
>
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