[p2p-research] Non digital commons a lot more complicated than Free Software

[Michel Bauwens]

hi marco,

i find your patent argument quite remarkable as a free software
advocate, i.e. about patents,

both historical and contermporary evidence, nearly all research that
has been done about is, suggests IP and patents are a drain on
innovation,

we also know that the internet was NOT developed by companies, that
Microsoft got its operating system from somewhere else etc ..

On 12/8/10, M. Fioretti <mfioretti at nexaima.net> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> first of all, sorry for starting this very interesting discussion by
> sending a link to my own article:
>
> http://stop.zona-m.net/2010/11/non-digital-commons-a-lot-more-complicated-than-free-software/
>
> and then dropping completely out of it. I've had a couple of very busy
> weeks, still catching up with work after some travels and courses.
> For now, just a comment on this:
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 23:41:43 PM +0000, j.martin.pedersen
> (m.pedersen at lancaster.ac.uk) wrote:
>
>> If a digital commoner acknowledged her resource use and had to
>> organise that - instead of leaving it to nuclear power and mining
>> corporations - than digital commons would be a lot more complicated,
>> because they do not only involve virtual light, but an enormous
>> amount of resources... digital commoners... need to come to terms
>> with energy and resource use and face up to the fact that any
>> commons ought to be responsible to the earth for its impact upon it.
>
> Martin,
>
> what follows is NOT to criticize anybody, just to summarize my own
> position in this discussion:
>
> as far as **I** am concerned, I have never hidden behind
> immateriality. ME, I've always known very well that the so-called
> "cyberspace" is a very physical thing, and that things like the Free
> SW movement or even these chats we're having are only possible because
> personal computers are affordable, that is only because a few
> multinationals use patents and consume a lot of physical resources to
> produce them in huge quantities. And I've ever known that, for
> example, the "immaterial" software and file formats we use have big,
> direct consequences on the physical environment. Here are, from newer
> to older, some of the things I've already written that prove this
> position:
>
> http://stop.zona-m.net/2010/12/save-as-wwf-no-thanks/
>
> http://stop.zona-m.net/2010/11/what-is-trashware-a-way-to-save-money-and-pollute-less-with-computers/
>
> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/marco-fioretti-is-universal-internet-access-really-a-good-idea/2009/05/18
>
> http://p2pfoundation.net/Thoughts_on_P2P_production_and_deployment_of_physical_objects
>
> Now going to catch up with the rest of this discussion
>
>
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