[p2p-research] Listmaster Announcement: Possible Migration to New List

[Patrick Anderson]

Yet another example of why we *must* own the Physical Sources before
we can be truly sovereign.


On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Kevin Carson
<free.market.anticapitalist at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Members:
>
> Over the weekend, this list -- along with all other mailman lists on
> listcultures -- was suspended without the courtesy of a warning or
> explanation, and without any subsequent apology.  Here's Michel's
> account of it:
>
>
> "Last Friday, we discovered that our messages were no longer
> distributed and that the info page... informed us there were no longer
> any lists available. We also discovered on an another page, that our
> account has been suspended.
>
> "The host of our mailman list has been listcultures.org, a domain
> owned by Geert Lovink, and the list was created a few years ago by Ned
> Rossiter, co-author with Geert of a book on Organized Networks. The
> lists are operating on servers from the Belgian firm Alfahosting
> <http://alfahosting.be>.
>
> "It would seem that all the lists of listcultures.org have been suspended.
>
> "Moreover, no warning, no explanation, has been given. After several
> back and forths, we still don’t know why we have been suspended,
> whether we are victims of collective punishment for the misdeeds of
> another mailing list, or whether we ourselves did any wrong, albeit
> unwittingly since we have no evidence from our own experience that we
> did....
>
> "But it seems to us that a unilateral decision by a commercial firm,
> to suspend an account, without any reason given, no communication and
> no due process, is not acceptable ethical behaviour and endangers the
> communication rights of online communities. Suddenly, we find
> ourselves without access to a very rich archive, and in the
> impossibility to communicate with our sympathizers. With a unilateral
> act, years of community building are endangered.
>
> "Surely, for the future, we and others will be careful about dealing
> with ,entities that have ethical guidelines, due process and a respect
> for communication rights, and avoid those that have such a callous
> disregard for their clients."
>
>
> To what Michel stated I would add that we have received nothing in the
> way of an apology, and no assurances that something similar won't
> happen in the future.  This is an intolerable lack of consideration.
>
> We have, consequently, taken steps to prepare for a possible migration
> to a new list -- probably another mailman list -- effective Jan. 1.
> This is provisionally planned to take place if the membership agrees
> on it.
>
> --
> Kevin Carson
> Center for a Stateless Society http://c4ss.org
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