[p2p-research] building a knowledge commons, the p2p way --> feedback from Natalie

Mon Aug 23 15:51:40 CEST 2010

Hi Natalie,

thanks for your commentary on the Cook report, part 2, still not officially
out .. you seem to be one of the few who was able to open the document ...
if you can send me a doc version of yours, perhaps the others will be able
to open your version ..

yes, I'm interesting in projects where I could advise others on building
knowledge commons, based on what we have learned ..

as for the boundaries, I see essentially three:

1) one is topical, i.e. there has to be some limitations as to what is
covered

2) one is perspectival, i.e. the material is built from a certain
perspectives, which permits plurality, but nevertheless sets some boundary,
i.e. p2p as defined as open, participatory, commons but within that,
interpretation is free

3) ethical, in our case, our p2p perspective would prohibit outright
racist or sexist expressions; another aspect of ethics is in the form, i.e.
overt insults and personal attacks for example. Kevin recently banned a
member of our list for using 'sounds gay' 'old little men' and 'wading
through your filth'.

Of course, this does not obviate the issues of power, i.e. who issues these
limits, how are they enforced, is there a due process etc...

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Natalie Pang (Asst Prof) <
NLSPANG at ntu.edu.sg> wrote:

>  Dear Michel,
>
> Many thanks for the report. It was a great read, and gave very practical,
> hands-on insights on building and managing the knowledge commons.
>
>
>
> I share your sentiments about Twitter – to the point that I raise my
> eyebrows whenever I come across any research project aspiring (or claiming)
> to mine knowledge from Twitter. It also struck me that you could provide
> really valuable advice to people attempting to build, or manage their
> knowledge commons – have you ever been approached to do this? Would you be
> willing to? In the constant pursuit of building knowledge commons, I do
> think there is a role for cyberians who can also provide strategic advice on
> the use of participatory interactive media according to the goals of
> individual commons...
>
>
>
> The section on tagging and delici.ous also made me think about the
> methodological approach on my current project on tagging. I was most
> interested in your comment on page 29, where you said ‘…the wiki is free
> within a perspective but not totally free. The perspective permits
> initiative but also gives it a boundary’. This is most interesting to me, as
> it reflects on the transient and permeable boundaries of power,
> communication and technological sanctions. Would have liked to read about
> this in greater detail. Were there dilemmas posed by the boundaries you
> speak of? For whom?
>
>
>
> Again, thanks for the report – personally I think it’s a valuable resource
> to both practitioners and researchers.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> natalie
>
>
>
> [image: https://wis.ntu.edu.sg/graphics/tms/ntulogofit2.gif]
>
> *Natalie PANG *| Assistant Professor | Division of Information Studies | Wee
> Kim Wee School of Communication and Information | Nanyang Technological
> University
> WKWSCI 04-10, 31 Nanyang Link, Singapore 637716
> Tel: (65) 67904881 | Email: nlspang at ntu.edu.sg <wendy at ntu.edu.sg> | Web:
> www.wkwsci.ntu.edu.sg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Michel Bauwens [mailto:michelsub2004 at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, 16 August, 2010 12:51 PM
> *To:* Samuel Rose; Paul B. Hartzog; james burke; Kevin Carson; Natalie
> Pang (Asst Prof)
> *Cc:* Sinee Chakthranont; Thanapon Sreshthaputra; Sunit Shrestha; dominic
> bone; Richard David Hames; Josef Davies-Coates; olivierschulbaum
> *Subject:* building a knowledge commons, the p2p way
>
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
>
>
> This is NOT yet for public consumption, as it will be published in October
> by the Cook Report, an expensive private newsletter distrtibuted to the
> telecom industry, but feel free to share privately
>
>
>
> If the August issue gave an in-depth look at our philosophy, politics and
> social practice, this second instalmment looks at the logic of our knowledge
> commons,
>
>
>
> Though it goes into great detail, and I was worried about this, testing
> with pilot readers has been very positive, so I'm really happy with the work
> Gordon Cook has done ..
>
>
>
> While our practice is far from perfect, I think in some ways it can be an
> inspiring example for many other knowledge communities ... and this special
> issue makes the case for that,
>
>
>
> Michel
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Gordon Cook* <cook at cookreport.com>
> Date: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:41 AM
> Subject: here it is all laid out
> To: Michel Bauwens <michelsub2004 at gmail.com>
>
>
> please give it a good look
>
>
>
>
> =============================================================
> The COOK Report on Internet Protocol, (PSTN) 609 882-2572 (Skype-in) 609
> 643-4067
> Back Issues:
> http://www.cookreport.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=37&Itemid=61
>  Cook's Collaborative Edge Blog http://gordoncook.net/wp/   Subscription
> info:
> http://www.cookreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&Itemid=65
> =============================================================
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net
>
> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss:
> http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org
>
> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens;
> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
>
> Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email is intended solely for the person(s) named and
> may be confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended
> recipient, please delete it, notify us and do not copy, use, or disclose its
> content. Thank you.
>
> Towards A Sustainable Earth: Print Only When Necessary
>

-- 
P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net  - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net

Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss:
http://listcultures.org/mailman/listinfo/p2presearch_listcultures.org

Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens;
http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens

Think tank: http://www.asianforesightinstitute.org/index.php/eng/The-AFI
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listcultures.org/pipermail/p2presearch_listcultures.org/attachments/20100823/e8c72a84/attachment.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: image/gif
Size: 5503 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listcultures.org/pipermail/p2presearch_listcultures.org/attachments/20100823/e8c72a84/attachment.gif>